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Error in Shop Manuals

Gray Ghost

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I noticed errors in the 2013 and 2010 manuals in the fastener grade/torque table. If you are using a SAE torque wrench be very careful using that table. I am attaching a screenshot of the table. If the metric reading is below 25 N-m, the corresponding SAE measurement should be lbf-in (inch-pounds). Many of the values are listed as lbf-ft (foot-pounds) which can lead to problems if you are following that table.

If you want to verify the figures there is an online converter at: http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/torque/
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Interesting..!!

Is a bit confusing but I note they all have lbf but that is followed by a dot and either a ft or in presumably foot pounds or inch pounds. I go more by the manual...but thanks for the heads up...:thumbup:
 


The pound or pound-force (symbol: lb, lb
[SUB]f[/SUB], or lbf) is a unit of force used in some systems of measurement including English Engineering units and the British Gravitational System. Pounds of force are not to be confused with foot-pounds or pounds-feet, which are a unit of torque, and may be written as "lb. · ft" or "lb.


 
Is a bit confusing but I note they all have lbf but that is followed by a dot and either a ft or in presumably foot pounds or inch pounds. I go more by the manual...but thanks for the heads up...:thumbup:

The screenshot is from the manual.



The pound or pound-force (symbol: lb, lb
[SUB]f[/SUB], or lbf) is a unit of force used in some systems of measurement including English Engineering units and the British Gravitational System. Pounds of force are not to be confused with foot-pounds or pounds-feet, which are a unit of torque, and may be written as "lb. · ft" or "lb.

Not sure where you got the information that pound-force was not a measurement of torque. The conversion page uses pound force-foot and pound force-inch, a wikipedia article on torque uses the same wording as do some other websites. I am more familiar with using lb-ft and lb-in. I did find another torque conversion site, and according to it, 15 N-m equals 133 (rounded) lb-in. On the site I linked to 15 N-m equals 133 (rounded) lbf-in. So I am pretty sure that when the Can-Am manual says lbf-ft they are talking about foot-pounds of torque.
 
Sorry I was not clear on using the manual. In the process of doing the work they usually state the torque used.
 
When working on rear caliper, when replacing the brake pads the manual says to "pull the lever back to recess the piston". There is no lever and you're supposed to use needle nose pliers in the 2 holes in the head of the piston and screw it back in.


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