Rick Binegar
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Looking at a 2014 RT 30K Mi. Engine rattles (sounds like topend) loud untill oil pressure builds up, normal or not?
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Engine rattle
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Bob Denman
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:shocked: NOT normal... walk away! nojoke
ARtraveler
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The 2014 RT's come with the 1330 ACE engine. To me--they sound a bit like a diesel chugging at idle. I don't see that as a problem.
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:agree: And once you realise the diesel 'chatter' aka 'chaff cutter' noise at idle is normal for the 1330's & you rev one a little, the engine sounds like Great Grandma's Singer Sewing machine just took off, :yikes: so don't be too surprised!! 
It's actually quite a distinctive engine noise, and it is pretty much there regardless of what you do to the exhaust to try & mask it!! The F3's with less body work are even more 'noisey' wrt the engine!! :shocked: But the 1330 motor will pull like a train.... albeit not quite as an exciting train as the 998 V-twin IMO, but they certainly do have a whole lotta torque, especially down low! :thumbup:
And when it all comes down to it, how many posts/threads do you see here or anywhere else from people complaining about having to rebuild or replace their engine? There are some re V-twins, but some of them are getting on a bit now, & they are notorious oil users; but there are only a couple, maybe 'a few' about 1330's.... & if there was an inate problem, rest assured you'd be reading about it here!! Just like you can about the 'different noise' they make - especially if you look at the threads & posts from when they first hit the streets!!
It's actually quite a distinctive engine noise, and it is pretty much there regardless of what you do to the exhaust to try & mask it!! The F3's with less body work are even more 'noisey' wrt the engine!! :shocked: But the 1330 motor will pull like a train.... albeit not quite as an exciting train as the 998 V-twin IMO, but they certainly do have a whole lotta torque, especially down low! :thumbup:
And when it all comes down to it, how many posts/threads do you see here or anywhere else from people complaining about having to rebuild or replace their engine? There are some re V-twins, but some of them are getting on a bit now, & they are notorious oil users; but there are only a couple, maybe 'a few' about 1330's.... & if there was an inate problem, rest assured you'd be reading about it here!! Just like you can about the 'different noise' they make - especially if you look at the threads & posts from when they first hit the streets!!
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bushrat
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Thank you Peter Aawen and akspyderman for the reassuring comments and explanations re the noisy 1330 Ace engine. I have to agree, Peter, with your comparison to it sounding like a sewing machine gone berserk; that's exactly how I have tried to describe the sound of my F3L to others when asking whether this is 'normal' and 'to be expected'. This is my first Spyder, and there was a 38-year gap in my riding history when I brought it home. I'm re-learning a lot of things. Getting used to biking again has brought with it the usual concerns of new ownership. The F3L has been running fine, giving lots of fun and excitement, but I have sometimes been apprehensive about the metallic sounds it makes. Your comments will surely help me feel more relaxed. It's great to have the benefit of others' experience on this wonderful, knowledge-sharing Forum. Thanks much!!
Hypurone
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I'm with you guys on this. My F3-S was a little noisy when cold but it was coming from the clutch area, NOT the top end! And didn't quiet down once "oil pressure built". It would quiet down as the oil temp came up tho. And now no longer does it at all since I switched off of the BRP oil.... So, to the OP, I would get a second opinion and or change the oil and filter if it hasn't been done in 5k miles or a year's time....
Joel The Biker
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Not normal.
Mine is quiet when I start it cold. Maybe they haven't changed the oil in a long time? Low on oil? Or more serious problem? I would look for another spyder to buy. Spyders are notoriously expensive to fix.
Mine is quiet when I start it cold. Maybe they haven't changed the oil in a long time? Low on oil? Or more serious problem? I would look for another spyder to buy. Spyders are notoriously expensive to fix.
Little Blue
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Engine Noise
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Are you buying from a Spyder Dealer? Private party? Any chance of Warranty on the Spyder? Some repairs can be very expensive. :thumbup:
All Good Tips.
Are you buying from a Spyder Dealer? Private party? Any chance of Warranty on the Spyder? Some repairs can be very expensive. :thumbup:
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Bob Denman
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There's engine noise 
; and there's ENGINE NOISE!! :shocked:
Having had some automotive engines with bad lifters: it's pretty easy to tell the difference between them...
If it's as bad as the O.P. is hinting: it needs a lot of further investigation. nojoke
; and there's ENGINE NOISE!! :shocked:Having had some automotive engines with bad lifters: it's pretty easy to tell the difference between them...
If it's as bad as the O.P. is hinting: it needs a lot of further investigation. nojoke
Rick Binegar
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Thanks for all of the info, Think I’ll pass unless I get a Warranty :banghead:
KX5062
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The 1330 motors have a hydraulic cam chain tensioner that uses a helper spring to maintain pressure when the engine is off. Mine (43k miles) has an intermittent rattle at startup, but it is only occasionally. What I believe is happening is the helper spring has become somewhat weak and is not maintaining proper tension when the engine is not running. I've consulted with several professionals in different shop/dealers and their advice was to not worry about it until it is an all of the time thing. They all said a slight decrease in spring tension can cause a lot of noise, but none of it is harmful.
Bob Denman
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Rick Binegar
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The cam chain tensioner spring, sounds right. I thank everyone for the reply’s. I would be intrested to see the setup, I understand the tensioner, just not the hydraulic part! Ride Safe, & have fun :yes:
The cam chain tensioner spring, sounds right. I thank everyone for the reply’s. I would be intrested to see the setup, I understand the tensioner, just not the hydraulic part! Ride Safe, & have fun :yes:
Seattle
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Engine noise in '18 F3 Limited Anniversary Edition
I made a video recording yesterday of my '18 F3 Limited of an unsettling sound that occurs only on cold start ups after the Spyder has been sitting overnight in the garage. Is this the sound everyone else is describing as normal? The unsettling intensity of the rattling noise (or whatever it is) completely fades away approximately after 5 minutes of idling or riding. I attempted another a cold start up after it's been sitting outside for several hours in the sun; no noise. My Spyder has 715 miles so I realise it's not broken in as of yet, but I had a brand new '18 RT Limited for a couple weeks on loan (2 miles on the odometer when I left with it) while my Spyder was in for warranty work and never heard this unsettling noise.
I made a video recording yesterday of my '18 F3 Limited of an unsettling sound that occurs only on cold start ups after the Spyder has been sitting overnight in the garage. Is this the sound everyone else is describing as normal? The unsettling intensity of the rattling noise (or whatever it is) completely fades away approximately after 5 minutes of idling or riding. I attempted another a cold start up after it's been sitting outside for several hours in the sun; no noise. My Spyder has 715 miles so I realise it's not broken in as of yet, but I had a brand new '18 RT Limited for a couple weeks on loan (2 miles on the odometer when I left with it) while my Spyder was in for warranty work and never heard this unsettling noise.
My 15 RTL does not sound like that. But it’s also got 15.5k miles on it so my comment may not be relevant.
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