..EMERGENCY .. for 2022 RYKER owners - recall on Handle-bar bolts!

[JonShadow]

I did see this guy claim the bolts are aluminum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5PjZCg_jIc&ab_channel=ChipMitchell

I'm not happy that I have taken my wife for a ride on a Ryker that might break its handlebar bolt.

 

[Raven]

I can't see BRP using Aluminum to save money, costs a lot more than steel.
As I said before this is a supplier issue.
I bet these guys make more than one type of bolt for BRP and will be bending over backwards to correct the problem.
Believe me you don't want to be on the customers bad side with something like this.

 

[JonShadow]

I do engineering work for an FDA listed electronics manufacturer. We buy parts from suppliers regularly. We sometimes find that suppliers have sent us parts that our quality assurance people find are out of spec. We issue harsh corrective action requirements to those suppliers. I expect that is happening right now at BRP.

 

[EchoVictor]

Maybe BRP don't use torque wrenches when they are behind schedule.

No OEM would skip torque controls to meet a schedule. That's just asking for a lawsuit.

Besides, BRP doesn't run this bolt down themselves. It's part of the Pre-Deilvery Inspection/Assembly that's performed by the dealer. Bolt rundown is at 2:50 of this PDI video;

Later,
EV

 

[Raven]

No OEM would skip torque controls to meet a schedule. That's just asking for a lawsuit.

Besides, BRP doesn't run this bolt down themselves. It's part of the Pre-Deilvery Inspection/Assembly that's performed by the dealer. Bolt rundown is at 2:50 of this PDI video;

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Later,
EV

Interesting, thanks for sharing.
It looks like it is a retaining bolt and just holds the handle bar bracket down on the shaft.
Not a lot of stress on the bolt itself, or a very high torque setting for the bolt.
With production tracking, they can track down to the time a part was made.
I think BRP pulled the whole run, just to be safe.

 

[EdMat]

Read somewhere that the bolts were good, just short.

 

[GrandPubah916]

I've tried several and they are all telling me that I need to go to the dealership I purchased the Ryker from. I would love to go to another, more competent dealership

 

[GeorgeXP700]

You can take your ride anywhere you want as long it’s an authorized BRP dealer. Being that said they may put you on a back burner and take care of their regulars first.

 

[SportsterDoc]

Appears this issue is a couple years old
https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?135005-Ryker-Handlebar-Bolt-Broken-how

According to RideApart, the issue is thread length

On July 13, 2022, Bombardier Recreational Products (BRP) issued a recall for certain 2022 Can-Am Ryker trikes. The issue? The bolt that connects the handlebar stem to the steering is too short, which could cause the bolt to break due to insufficient thread length. This could cause loss of control and, in worse case scenarios, a crash.

BRP states that 9,353 2022 Rykers are involved in the recall, which is number 2022-16. The company advises new Ryker owners to park their trikes and not ride them until the recall remedy can be performed. To fix the problem, dealers will remove the insufficient bolt, clean the threads in the steering column, and install a new, proper steering stem bolt—all free of charge.

Ryker owners will receive a notification letter sometime in late July or early August to inform them of the recall. More proactive owners can contact BRP customer service at 888-272-9222 or the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) at 888-327-4236 for more information about the recall.

 

[SportsterDoc]

The bolt, BRP part # 230680054 is M8x100 for 2019, 2020 and 2021
Could not find if 2022 is shorter.
Torque is only 18 ft #

If I had a 2022, I would remove the bolt and buy one 5mm or maybe 10 mm longer.

Probably use grade 8.8, as 10.9 might be overkill for the receiving end.

However, after re-reading this thread and noting Sarge707's comments:

"The replacemment bolt is 95mm so it doesn't pancake the bottom threads if they over torque it. Sometimes the 100mm would catch shavings on the bottom so they are told to clean the hole"

...do not now know if it should be 95mm or 105 mm...if RideApart is incorrect.

Sarge, what is your source on that?

 

[Raven]

They are probably cleaning the threads to get rid of any locking compound residue in the treads.
Otherwise you will not get a proper torque reading.
Thread depth should be 1 1/2 times the thread width. ie 1" bolt should go in 1 1/2"s.

 

[EchoVictor]

If I had a 2022, I would remove the bolt and buy one 5mm or maybe 10 mm longer.

Probably use grade 8.8, as 10.9 might be overkill for the receiving end.

When I picked mine up yesterday, the service guy showed me a replacement bolt. The little baggie didn't say what the length was, but the head of the new bolt was definitely marked grade 8.8.

Later,
EV

 

[SportsterDoc]

EV, do you know if replacement was longer or shorter than original?

Erik Buell should appreciate you!

 

[EchoVictor]

Didn't have the original bolt to compare to. We were at the service desk and he had a handful of the replacements in their little plastic baggies sitting there.

Bag was marked with a Can-Am logo, part number and price ($2.95!), but nothing about length.

Later,
EV

P.S. Have met and chatted with Erik on several occasions. Really sharp dude.

 

[canamjhb]

EV, do you know if replacement was longer or shorter than original?

Erik Buell should appreciate you!

The new bolt is reported to be 5mm shorter with the same length of threads. Apparently to old bolts were bottoming out and instead of torquing the stuff together were just being torqued against the bottom.....

 

[EdMat]

The new bolt is reported to be 5mm shorter with the same length of threads. Apparently to old bolts were bottoming out and instead of torquing the stuff together were just being torqued against the bottom.....

Makes sense that some of them would be a problem and some not.

 

[SportsterDoc]

The bolt length (too short or too long?) does not correspond to the NHTSA link in post #2, nor the BRP link in post #3.

So, is the truth that (1) bolts have actually broken or (2) the steering has loosened from (a) bolt bottoming out or (b) bolts have stripped threads from insufficient engagement?

 

[Sarge707]

The recall says about 50 bolts broke while the techs were installing as part of the assembly and 2 while people were driving with a sprained ankle or something? I waited out the hot spell and my dealer did mine the day I called tuesday.

 

[GrandPubah916]

you were lucky. My dealer is saying late August mid September to just receive the part. Thanks to this forum and several you-tube videos I would never have known about this. I haven't received and formal notification. Wish I could just go out and buy the bolt and fix it myself.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

you were lucky. My dealer is saying late August mid September to just receive the part. Thanks to this forum and several you-tube videos I would never have known about this. I haven't received and formal notification. Wish I could just go out and buy the bolt and fix it myself.

Who is telling you that you can't buy a higher grade bolt and fix it yourself ????? ...... Mike :thumbup: