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Dragon or Rattler?

Who told you that you had to choose between them? :shocked:
Ride both; nd then tell us which one you liked better! :2thumbs:
 
My last post notwithstanding, as that was a reply about the Rattler, and this thread has changed to a general what to ride in the NC/TN area: we have a plan when we visit the Smoky Mountain area. We have been there pretty often and ridden the named roads, Cherohala Skhyway, Blue Ridge Parkway, Tail of the Dragon, Rattler, Hellbender28/Moonshiner28 etc. Our plan now is to not have a plan. We have a GPS that we set the campsite or hotel as "Home" and go. Wondering where that road goes? Take it. Turn if it looks interesting. Basically go get lost and enjoy the roads that aren't overburdened by tourist traffic. A couple hours of that we hit the "Home" button on the GPS and it gets us back to our starting point. Last time we did that "plan" we saw some great sceanery, talked to some nice folks and had a very tasty meal at a mom and pop restaurant. After 5 hours of riding and a tank an a half of gas on our (at the time) GL1800 Goldwing trike I hit the "home" icon, and found we were 2 1/2 miles from our hotel. Just because you don't know where you're going doesn't mean you're lost.
 
Don't much care for either one of them. They are too popular now and almost always heavy traffic. I would much rather be riding some unknown or little used two lane through the mountains that is full of slopes and twisties.
 
This a little off the thread, I haven't ridden either the Dragon nor the Rattler, but plan on heading that way next month. Wife wants to do the Dragon, so may end up doing that one. We just got back from Deadwood, SD, and we rode Iron Mountain Road, so the Dragon better be great to beat IMR! No traffic, beautiful country side and a wonderful ride........OK, now back to The Dragon, traffic is what will disappoint me!
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This a little off the thread, I haven't ridden either the Dragon nor the Rattler, but plan on heading that way next month. Wife wants to do the Dragon, so may end up doing that one. We just got back from Deadwood, SD, and we rode Iron Mountain Road, so the Dragon better be great to beat IMR! No traffic, beautiful country side and a wonderful ride........OK, now back to The Dragon, traffic is what will disappoint me!
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Off thread is fine for this post, I'm learning about several cool rides that I didn't know about. Like the Devil's Triangle. Keep the comments coming. thank you.
 
Off thread is fine for this post, I'm learning about several cool rides that I didn't know about. Like the Devil's Triangle. Keep the comments coming. thank you.
If you liked the Devil's Triangle, then you should really contact me for some roads in the area. The Devil's Triangle is actually not one of the better ones in the area (although, that opinion is about 7-8 years old, when the road was a mess). But there are loads of roads everywhere in those hills.
 
Any of those roads are liable to have more traffic on the weekends, especially the Dragon. But if you choose to ride them on a weekday you are almost guaranteed to have clean roads.
 
I am from the area and ride them all when I am home. I like them all but as stated before the Dragon has been so commercialized that it is actually crowded at times. Not to mention the occasional tractor trailer that decides it is a short cut ... even though they need someone to literally walk the truck safely around some corners. For me I think that the charm is that there are no bad roads to ride. All are twisty and have elevation change. As a driver scenery should be somewhat secondary ;) If you have a chance take SR28 from Robbinsville to Franklin for a change of pace - just another beautiful mountain road.
Don't forget to support the local businesses - on the Waynesville end of 209 is the 209 Diner (great breakfast place), in Canton is the BearWaters Brewery .... have fun in the mountains.
 
Cherohala for sure for those contemplating it, we rode it last fall all I can say is OMG it wa beautifull , we rode the dragon on the way back home all I can say is it was ok glad we were in front of the semi, Thanks for all the other info
Dave
 
Off thread is fine for this post, I'm learning about several cool rides that I didn't know about. Like the Devil's Triangle. Keep the comments coming. thank you.

Some of the must Rides have become very crowed and unsafe. I'll take Hwy 12 west from Lolo Pass Idaho anytime. You may see 1/2 dozen bikes and cars on a busy weekend.
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I don't know what part of Virginia you are traveling through but this ride is getting a lot of attention, https://www.backofthedragon.com/. I have ridden this one and Tail of the Dragon and found Back of the Dragon not has congested as Tail of of the Dragon.
 
I like the "Snake", and it's only 40 min from my house. Road it today, after a light rain. This spyder is so nice to ride in the wet. Very confident inspiring, as long as you don't go crazy.
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Almost the other side of the world, but the Devil's Highway in Arizona is a great ride. over 400 curves and elevation change of just over 5,000 ft. Last time I did it was early October. It is just about 100 miles and I met a total of 27 vehicles. Definitely the road less travelled.
 
Lolo pass is one of my favorite rides. Haven’t done it in the Spyder yet but it’s just a matter of time before I do it. 100 miles of sweepers and in very beautiful country.
 
Another vote for Moonshiner 28, I take it all the way down to Walhalla SC and from there it's just a short trip home.
 
Oh. Uh. Wrong side of the continent.

We've got plenty of rattle snakes here in eastern Oregon.

One road got its name from said snakes. Not the "Rattler," but the "Rattlesnake."

I've ridden it more than once, both directions. Terrific either way.

It's a bit of a commute from where you guys are. Still: recommended:

https://www.motorcycleroads.com/motorcycle-roads/oregon/rattlesnake-pass-to-wallowa-lake

Among MANY choice roads in Oregon and Washington. Most without the traffic of the Tail.

Go West, young man!
 
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