Right, and as a owner of less than a week I didnt know there WAS a problem or what the problem IS, COULD BE or MIGHT BE. It was posts like these that shed some on light on it for me. In any case if someone doesnt want to read about DPS related topics dont click the thread.
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DPS..has it been fixed
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Right, and as a owner of less than a week I didnt know there WAS a problem or what the problem IS, COULD BE or MIGHT BE. It was posts like these that shed some on light on it for me. In any case if someone doesnt want to read about DPS related topics dont click the thread.
Well, you aren't sure yet whether YOU have a problem or not. If you search some earlier threads you'll find that it took plenty of new riders 500 miles or more before getting accustomed to the way the SpYder steers and handles.
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wyliec
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Lamonster.........Thank you
This is for everyone except Gazey and anyone else that seems to think I started a dead horse issue. For you, don't read any further.
Lamonster made a phone call for me. Long story short, Carlo called. The steering lock up is priority one with BRP. They are continuing to look into it.
I had thought because BRP replaced the DPS on a few of the members spyders and those spyders are working fine now that that was the end of it.
Carlo said once they (BRP) know what has been causing the steering lock ups they will contact the dealers and also let us know (Spyderlovers).
This is for everyone except Gazey and anyone else that seems to think I started a dead horse issue. For you, don't read any further.
Lamonster made a phone call for me. Long story short, Carlo called. The steering lock up is priority one with BRP. They are continuing to look into it.
I had thought because BRP replaced the DPS on a few of the members spyders and those spyders are working fine now that that was the end of it.
Carlo said once they (BRP) know what has been causing the steering lock ups they will contact the dealers and also let us know (Spyderlovers).
Very good to hear, mine has been in the shop for 2 weeks now and hasn't been touched due to so many out sick there with flu. I'm not complaining, yeah I want it back but if they need to hang on to it longer so that BRP comes to a conclusion. Fine with me. Maybe it's for the best that they haven't been able to do anything to it yet. Although I'm not glad they were sick.
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Way2Fast
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From everything I have read it seems that the only way a "check DPS" message will scroll across the screen is AFTER the updates have been done. Mine probably never had operational DPS and I never considered it hard to steer...after all it is a 700 lb bike, not a 4000 lb car. I, for one don't want or need power steering. I have pulled both fuses to make sure the DPS remains "dead". No screen message...because I didn't have the updates done.
I had a scary steering issue a year ago and was the first to report it here on this forum. It was unlike most of the incidents I read about recently. While on a straight and level single lane highway, doing around 50mph, my Spyder decided to take a left turn into the opposing traffic with no warning or driver input. It felt as if a big wind gust tried to lift the right wheel off the ground and push the vehicle into the left lane.(there was only a brief breeze on that day and it was coming from the opposite direction) I had no feeling of any "lockup" with the steering. I was able to recover and get the Spyder back into my lane. Had there been opposing traffic in the other lane, I would have been in a head on crash! I pulled over and shut the thing off, trying to get my composure back. Well this happened again a mile or so further down the road.....so I know it wasn't my imagination. Without having functional DPS, the lock up doesn't seem to happen, but even without DPS the dam thing still changes lanes unexpectedly !! BRP....I hope you are reading this. The steering problems go deeper than just issues with the DPS.
I had a scary steering issue a year ago and was the first to report it here on this forum. It was unlike most of the incidents I read about recently. While on a straight and level single lane highway, doing around 50mph, my Spyder decided to take a left turn into the opposing traffic with no warning or driver input. It felt as if a big wind gust tried to lift the right wheel off the ground and push the vehicle into the left lane.(there was only a brief breeze on that day and it was coming from the opposite direction) I had no feeling of any "lockup" with the steering. I was able to recover and get the Spyder back into my lane. Had there been opposing traffic in the other lane, I would have been in a head on crash! I pulled over and shut the thing off, trying to get my composure back. Well this happened again a mile or so further down the road.....so I know it wasn't my imagination. Without having functional DPS, the lock up doesn't seem to happen, but even without DPS the dam thing still changes lanes unexpectedly !! BRP....I hope you are reading this. The steering problems go deeper than just issues with the DPS.
Thats funny I guess thats why the dealer called me yesterday and said they were replacing my DPS... Yeah must be me just getting used to the Spyder... Also I'm not really a new rider, I've ridden another Spyder and it didnt do what mine was doing. Trust me its pretty obvious when it acts up..
Even still I was leaning towards blaming myself for the hiccups because it was hard for me to imagine I would have issues with a new vehicle starting on day one. Glad I found a few posts here describing exactly to the letter what was happening to me or else I'd still be riding around with a flakey DPS. I'm glad they are replacing it so I can enjoy it with full confidence and not worry about when that small hiccup is gonna turn into a full lock up at a time when I fully need the steering to work.
Just got a call from my dealer,BRP told them to change the DPS then get it back to me. Thats fine but I ask if they rode it to try to recreate the behavior. NOT HAPPY with what I was told, they didn't even ride it.:gaah:
Smylinacha----> is yours still doing ok with just a new dps? how many times have you been able to ride it since?
Or PITMON, hows yours? you had more than just dps changed right?
Smylinacha----> is yours still doing ok with just a new dps? how many times have you been able to ride it since?
Or PITMON, hows yours? you had more than just dps changed right?
Just speculating here but I believe BRP had my dealer run some sort of diag on it and maybe what they found indicated to BRP that the DPS needed to be replaced so there was no need to test ride. However in my case I believe the dealer did test ride it.
Yeah, on mine they said no test ride was done and no download of BUDs, diag done either. Thats what had me so concerned. I ask why not was told that BRP just specifically told them to change out the dps and that was all that need to be done. Maybe they have come to a conclusion that the dps is the root of all of the problems and don't need further testing. I dunno.
Scracth that. just verified they did hook to BUDs, nothing showed up. All was showing fine.
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RoadHammer
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just spoke with my dealer,
..........still waiting for parts after 6 days. Looks like dps did not like or agree with 2nd software update. waiting for new dps:gaah:
..........still waiting for parts after 6 days. Looks like dps did not like or agree with 2nd software update. waiting for new dps:gaah:
Smylinacha
Yellinacha
I'm not liking the fact that your dealer did not test ryde it! My dealer took mine out for quite a while and he's a Cam Am guy - if he's not ryding a :spyder:, he's on a quad or a snowmobile. He had no problem. I only rode it last Sunday to NY State and back and I don't think it was even 200 miles. But I got it up in the 70's on the backroads. At first I was scared but after a while my nervousness went away - I didn't have any problems on Sunday. My way to NY I rode w/ no tunes because I wanted to be prepared if anything were to go wrong. Way home, more relaxed with tunes blasting in my helmet :2thumbs: Hoping to ryde again this Sunday (after I wash it Saturday - it is filthy from the wet roads last weekend).
I guess I'm not that worried he didn't ride it, I mean he wouldn't be able to fix it any better feeling it do it. He has to do what BRP say do pretty much. Since mine did exactly as yours did and thats what u had changed, I'll feel content with it. Well maybe it is just as simple that bad dps from the beginning, and the ECM update screwed it up good. I know that batches of bad parts are made all the time. Fingers crossed its that simple. I have never seen anything scroll on my dash other than parking brake on, so it obviously wasn't picking up problems. Wish my body had a scroll when the lock up happened, you would've got alot of scrolls..:yikes:...lol..Hope that you get to ride again this weekend, seems your fixed and good to go, enjoy it before it gets too cold up there.:2thumbs:
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Smylinacha
Yellinacha
Yeah, I hope that is all it was - I hope BRP can tell us exactly what they are finding soon. Now is this the 3rd DPS you are getting in stalled? I had my original, then had the lockups, second one put in that was bad from the get go and #3 is a charm.
This will be my second one, it was the original one that locked on me also.
Smylinacha
Yellinacha
Keep us posted.
PCBeachBum
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My original DPS was always hard to steer and after getting the recall done on a Wednesday morning it remained the same. Except, I started getting the scroll "Check DPS". I took it back to the dealer and no codes came up. They sent me on my way and the following Saturday, is when the steering locked up.
This was in mid Oct and they replaced the power steering unit. Since getting it back, I've put over 1200 miles on it w/out a problem.
If I knew than what I know now, I would have left it at the dealer. If anything is scrolling across the dash, other than "Release Parking Brake".
I know from reading your post and other's, nothing was scrolling across your dash. Why it did on mine? I can only guess, it had something to do w/the recall.
PCBeachBum
New member
It took 6 days to get my new DPS to the dealer and can only say that with all the units BRP is replacing, there must be a backlog.
Hopefully it won't be too much longer for you.:2thumbs:
spyderbitten
New member
Mine is still in the shop waiting for yet another DPS unit. They have put 2 new units in so far and neither worked. Been down over 2 weeks just for the DPS problem plus another month because of the accident involving the deer. Gonna call dealer again today.......if no parts have arrived, I'am calling Carlo. :banghead:
Mike
Mike
Yeah, Bum, my experience was similar to yours. The shop informed me that the first recall included new DPS diagnostics and was able to detect the bad unit and scroll the message.
C3517C
Member
I just had my 4th DPS unit installed. The good part is that the second and third were recognized by the dealer as being defective before they gave me my Spydar back, so I never actually had to ride on them. A BRP rep was sent to the dealership and confirmed that they were bad. BPR then discovered that a bad batch of DPS units had been sent to dealers nation wide. They were able to tell they were from the same "batch" because of their markings. I asked the dealer how many makes up a batch, but he didn't know. They had the bike for over a month, but at least they're making sure its right. As expected, these parts are currently in high demand, and there's probably going to be some waiting if you need one. I also found out that BRP does not manufacture the DPS unit, they buy it from someone else. I'm not suggesting that it relieves them from the responsibility, just putting out the info.
This steering issue is a horrible problem for sure, but I do have some positive things to say. When the BRP rep came to the dealership he brought diagnostic and data recording equipment with him in an effort to gain as much info as possible on the bad units. This equipment is beyond what the dealerships have. The dealer and the BRP rep then did several hundred miles of test driving, on more than one Spyder. The problem became worse and worse as the miles added up. While it was acting up they switched riders and confirmed what one another was feeling. Towards the end of the ride they described the problem as severe. It appears that they are really trying to get this figured out and fixed. Can they do more ? I don't know.
Since I have my Spyder back the steering has been better than ever. I just got it back and only have 100 miles on the new DPS, so I'm not going to do a victory dance just yet. I hope to log some miles this weekend. Like so many others, I must admit I'm a bit nervous riding after having a pretty bad lock up. I think if I can go trouble free for awhile I'll be fine.
Be careful and take you Spyder to the dealer if you have detected steering problems. This problem has varying degrees of severity. A little nudge in your steeing could be an ugly lock up next time.
This steering issue is a horrible problem for sure, but I do have some positive things to say. When the BRP rep came to the dealership he brought diagnostic and data recording equipment with him in an effort to gain as much info as possible on the bad units. This equipment is beyond what the dealerships have. The dealer and the BRP rep then did several hundred miles of test driving, on more than one Spyder. The problem became worse and worse as the miles added up. While it was acting up they switched riders and confirmed what one another was feeling. Towards the end of the ride they described the problem as severe. It appears that they are really trying to get this figured out and fixed. Can they do more ? I don't know.
Since I have my Spyder back the steering has been better than ever. I just got it back and only have 100 miles on the new DPS, so I'm not going to do a victory dance just yet. I hope to log some miles this weekend. Like so many others, I must admit I'm a bit nervous riding after having a pretty bad lock up. I think if I can go trouble free for awhile I'll be fine.
Be careful and take you Spyder to the dealer if you have detected steering problems. This problem has varying degrees of severity. A little nudge in your steeing could be an ugly lock up next time.
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