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Does your F3 have blotches on the suede Seat?
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vondalyn
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This is kind of what it looks more like to me (the visual variation rather than a true color variation).
Must be the nature of the suede.
How you all like your F3-S My husband loves his F3-S.
vondalyn
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I love mine even more than the last Spyder that I loved!
Tom in NM
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That is. . . . .
. . . . . the way it is supposed to look. I thought the same thing all of you did, that the leather on the seats surface was 'blotchy'. Turns out that is the way it is supposed to be. On the seat's description, they mention that it is sueded/texturized to help keep you butt from slipping around.
Tom
. . . . . the way it is supposed to look. I thought the same thing all of you did, that the leather on the seats surface was 'blotchy'. Turns out that is the way it is supposed to be. On the seat's description, they mention that it is sueded/texturized to help keep you butt from slipping around.
Tom
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R.I.P. Dwayne
I mentioned early on that there may be issues with suede leather as a seat covering for a seat on the F3. Rain will really put blotches on it, as well as mat down and stiffen the suede finish, so be aware.
I am an old leather merchant. Do not know of any product that will waterproof suede leather. We used to sell two items. A suede stone (used like an eraser to take off any unwanted marks. A suede brush to gently refurbish the sueded finish.
Suede leather is top grain (smooth) cowhide that has either been sanded down, or a "split" that comes off the original hide when they make the top grain to a specific thickness.
I like the looks, but there can be issues.
You will usually find a disclaimer tag on real leather items along the lines of..."leather is a natural item and therefore will have natural range markings or slight imperfections. This is not a sign of a defective product, but an assurance that you are getting genuine leather."
I am an old leather merchant. Do not know of any product that will waterproof suede leather. We used to sell two items. A suede stone (used like an eraser to take off any unwanted marks. A suede brush to gently refurbish the sueded finish.
Suede leather is top grain (smooth) cowhide that has either been sanded down, or a "split" that comes off the original hide when they make the top grain to a specific thickness.
I like the looks, but there can be issues.
You will usually find a disclaimer tag on real leather items along the lines of..."leather is a natural item and therefore will have natural range markings or slight imperfections. This is not a sign of a defective product, but an assurance that you are getting genuine leather."
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Tom in NM
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I agree . . .
. . . . but I don't think the F3-S seat is leather. ( the F3-S is a different seat from the standard "black" seat and the Cannonball )
I just went out and sprayed water on the seat and it just beaded up. No soaking in or discoloration - and I have also power washed it 2 times.
The "suede/texturized" area does feel different and it has a different 'knap' texture when you closely inspect it. But, while I am not leather expert, I don't think it is anything that comes from a cow - or directly anyway. It may be leather, but pressure treated with some sort of polymer. When you look under the seat, you can see that there is a woven (white) material foundation for the seat material and given that I don't see any real mention of genuine cowhide leather anywhere with seats - so I am voting Synthetic. I am OK with that.
I am attaching a screen shot of the seat detail from the BRP website. Though the catalogue ( page 58 ) shows the color variation better. On mine, it looks more "dappled" than "blotchy".
Tom
. . . . but I don't think the F3-S seat is leather. ( the F3-S is a different seat from the standard "black" seat and the Cannonball )
I just went out and sprayed water on the seat and it just beaded up. No soaking in or discoloration - and I have also power washed it 2 times.
The "suede/texturized" area does feel different and it has a different 'knap' texture when you closely inspect it. But, while I am not leather expert, I don't think it is anything that comes from a cow - or directly anyway. It may be leather, but pressure treated with some sort of polymer. When you look under the seat, you can see that there is a woven (white) material foundation for the seat material and given that I don't see any real mention of genuine cowhide leather anywhere with seats - so I am voting Synthetic. I am OK with that.
I am attaching a screen shot of the seat detail from the BRP website. Though the catalogue ( page 58 ) shows the color variation better. On mine, it looks more "dappled" than "blotchy".
Tom
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R.I.P. Dwayne
The BRP Web page describing the seat on the F3-S says black suede seat with red stitching. I note that they do not mention the word leather in the description. That makes the whole point moot with my discussion of actual sueded leather.
There are many "fake" suede products out there--consider "ultra suede" and the microfiber stuff they put on a lot of furniture today. They can be treated and will stand up much better than the "real" thing.
The fact that you can power wash your seat with no damage, speaks volumes that the product is not real leather. That was a good move for BRP. A whole lot less problems will be created.
Yes, BRP should give directions for care and upkeep of the new seat.
Thank you for your counterpoint. :yes::yes:
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