do i really need to install a juice box?

[PERRO21]

I own a 2011 rss and finished installing a two brothers Carbon Fiber Black Series Twin / Dual Slip-on Exhaust System (M-2 Canisters)
now my question is do i need to install a juice box if so which one would you guys recommend?

 

[SethO]

if you get a bunch of back firing then u way want to get a power commander 5, way better on every level with a auto tune, the LCD screen is not worth the money.

 

[5PYD3R]

Every bike is going to be different, but my Juicebox sits in the garage back in its box. It actually gave me more problems. Runs great without it. For some reason I do get a little backfiring if I end up riding for a few hours or more. I have another thread started about Dyno interest and am still sorting some things out. Thats the only way mine would go back on is if I ended up doing a dyno

 

[Bootie]

Juicebox

if you get a bunch of back firing then u way want to get a power commander 5, way better on every level with a auto tune, the LCD screen is not worth the money.

:agree::agree::agree:

 

[boborgera]

I own a 2011 rss and finished installing a two brothers Carbon Fiber Black Series Twin / Dual Slip-on Exhaust System (M-2 Canisters)
now my question is do i need to install a juice box if so which one would you guys recommend?

You only need it if you need it!, ie Backfiring [popping]
Go one step at a time put some miles in the slip-on's with all kinds of riding, then you'll know if you will need a juice box. Sometimes less is more.

 

[packbuckbrew]

I have a TB and K&N filter on a 2010 RTS and adding the juice box decreased the back firing and popping, but I am still not totally sold on the performance end. I have been considering going to a power commander with the auto tune. The big question is why do you think you need a JB. Is your RS running well with the TB alone? Are you looking for better performance or were you just looking for the sound the TB gave you? Are you concerned about damaging the engine? For me, it has been all about performance and trying to get as much out of my RT as I can without burning it down (I know I could just get an RS and be done with it, but then I would be blowing my benjamins trying to get the RS to have the amenities of the RT). I added the JB for a little more control, but without putting it on a dyno though, it is all just a WAG (per Lamonster), a Wild Ass Guess. The auto tune samples your exhaust and makes changes based on real data, not that I understand one tenth of what the heck it all does. If you feel compelled to add a fuel controller, I would go with PC with auto tune, but if your running well with the TB alone and are happy maybe you don't need it. Good luck.

 

[Firefly]

I own a 2011 rss and finished installing a two brothers Carbon Fiber Black Series Twin / Dual Slip-on Exhaust System (M-2 Canisters)
now my question is do i need to install a juice box if so which one would you guys recommend?

I would take a serious look at the Power Commander V with auto-tune. I can't believe the difference the auto-tune makes... especially pertaining to gas mileage. Auto-Tune keeps her running in the right AFR range and thus better MPG.

I was down to 1 bar at around 115 miles and would lose that bar around 130 miles with my previous (obviously too rich) setup.

Now with auto-tune I lose the last bar around 175 miles.. and am sure I could get 200 miles on a tank if needed. :thumbup:

 

[napper39]

i have the eci canster,and the air filter.and mine runs good after i put on the 02 eliminter.and it only 90 dollars ,very easy install.:thumbup:

 

[PERRO21]

well im not having any trouble

I have a TB and K&N filter on a 2010 RTS and adding the juice box decreased the back firing and popping, but I am still not totally sold on the performance end. I have been considering going to a power commander with the auto tune. The big question is why do you think you need a JB. Is your RS running well with the TB alone? Are you looking for better performance or were you just looking for the sound the TB gave you? Are you concerned about damaging the engine? For me, it has been all about performance and trying to get as much out of my RT as I can without burning it down (I know I could just get an RS and be done with it, but then I would be blowing my benjamins trying to get the RS to have the amenities of the RT). I added the JB for a little more control, but without putting it on a dyno though, it is all just a WAG (per Lamonster), a Wild Ass Guess. The auto tune samples your exhaust and makes changes based on real data, not that I understand one tenth of what the heck it all does. If you feel compelled to add a fuel controller, I would go with PC with auto tune, but if your running well with the TB alone and are happy maybe you don't need it. Good luck.

but i hear a lot of people installing the jb after installing a new exhaust...
but if it ain't broke don't fix it right...
thanks for good info guys..:cheers:

 

[MrBones]

I be new and dumb :helpsmilie: what is a juice box and what does it do ?? And are all these mods needed to make a thousands of dollars machine work properly ???

 

[bobbobtar]

Two Brothers Juice Box is an electronic/computer box about the size of a deck of cards, that when wired into the Spyders OEM harness allows you to add or subtract fuel and bypass some of the signals sent to the ECU. Most Juice Boxes and Power Commanders have programs/maps already downloaded into them so you would not have to have your bike dyno'd to achieve the best performance.