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DID Make My Mind up! - Big D's Mighty Red Baron has Arrived!

Hi All Above. Enjoyed your advice, so I've been out yesterday and ordered a New 2024 Red Spyder RTL. It will be with me before the end of the month. So I hope it all works, as I say 55 years on 2 wheels, but the posts have made me think a little differently re Can Am's, so let's see how I fair. If it's all wrong, your invoice will be in the post! :) I've got the T shirt :)
 

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Hi All Above. Enjoyed your advice, so I've been out yesterday and ordered a New 2024 Red Spyder RTL. It will be with me before the end of the month. So I hope it all works, as I say 55 years on 2 wheels, but the posts have made me think a little differently re Can Am's, so let's see how I fair. If it's all wrong, your invoice will be in the post! :) I've got the T shirt :)

:congrats: on the new purchase. :2thumbs:
 
Hi All Above. Enjoyed your advice, so I've been out yesterday and ordered a New 2024 Red Spyder RTL. It will be with me before the end of the month. So I hope it all works, as I say 55 years on 2 wheels, but the posts have made me think a little differently re Can Am's, so let's see how I fair. If it's all wrong, your invoice will be in the post! :) I've got the T shirt :)

Congrats. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Just curious, but are there many Spyders in your country? I've never been there, but I know motorsickles are very popular as a means of everyday transportation unlike here in the US where there mostly used for recreation.
Back when I was working for a living I logged over 100k miles on them, and some folks log way more than that.
But anyway just curious Thanks.
 
Congratulations on your new Spyder purchase. Just be patient. Spyders handle differently to other bikes. Many (most) of us who've been 2-wheel riding for decades find the first few Spyder riding experiences less than satisfying. Lots of information on this forum about riding techniques that are very helpful. It took me a LONG time to be completely comfortable and competent, but it finally did happen. Enjoy..... Jim
 
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Hi All Above. Enjoyed your advice, so I've been out yesterday and ordered a New 2024 Red Spyder RTL. It will be with me before the end of the month. So I hope it all works, as I say 55 years on 2 wheels, but the posts have made me think a little differently re Can Am's, so let's see how I fair. If it's all wrong, your invoice will be in the post! :) I've got the T shirt :)

:yes:....I know You will enjoy Your Spyder!
Just remember it is a 3 wheel vehicle/Bike.
Ryde and Learn. ....Ryde and Learn. .... Ryde and Learn. ...Repeat.
Life keeps on going till the end of the Road. ....:thumbup:
 
Congrats. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Just curious, but are there many Spyders in your country? I've never been there, but I know motorsickles are very popular as a means of everyday transportation unlike here in the US where there mostly used for recreation.
Back when I was working for a living I logged over 100k miles on them, and some folks log way more than that.
But anyway just curious Thanks.

Hi Das, funnily enough, I saw my first RT on the road near Skegness yesterday. As to how many Can Ams are in the UK, I've no idea! Not many, as you never see them. I think there's 6 dealers in all?! Motorbikes that come from the UK are Norton, BSA, Triumph, Arial, etc. etc. so yeah, they are popular here. I also used to cover some 15k miles a year on 2-wheels for many years. So, this Spyder is a weird thing to me, but I'm being more open minded to it, and let's just see if it fits here for fun and a hang around the rides.
 
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I'll answer number one. I'm 70, been riding on two wheels for 55 years also, and purchased my 2020 RTL last month. It wasn't long before I adapted the change and absolutely love the Spyder. Now, I did do a lot of reading, and watched quite a few YouTube videos. I also spent quite a bit of time in the month before my switch, imagining the difference while riding my 2-wheel bike. I felt I was mentally prepared when I purchased the Spyder. Of course, imagining how something behaves, can't compare to reality, but it really helped. I spent my first week doing casual rides around town, and one key for me was not trying to compare the Spyder to all my other bikes. I simply saw it as a new vehicle that I needed to get to know. Every bike I've owned was different, and that's how I approached riding the Spyder.

Within about a week, riding it felt natural. The next step was to take it on a local highway that is full of curves going up the side of a ridge to another town, then turning around and riding back down. I did this for a few days, with each day riding the curves a little faster. This taught me how it handles and improved my confidence. I'm very happy with my decision and find riding the Spyder to be an absolute blast. In some ways, it reminds me of my old Goldwing, and at other times it reminds me of a sports car I had a few years back. It's comfortable, smooth, and fun in the curves. Can't beat not having to put my feet down when stopping and I love having a reverse.

Of course, your experience may be different. They aren't for everyone.

I agree. After 50+ years of riding 2 wheels, I decided to get off 2 wheels when I turned 80, so I sold my BMW R1200RT and bought a 2020 Spyder RT in August 2022. After unlearning long-term muscle memory for front braking and counter steering, riding the Spyder with more and more finesse paralleled time in the saddle. I can now ride with my old BMW 2 wheel riding buddies, and they are amazed that I keep up with them (mostly). I predict you'll love a Spyder in the end.
OOPS, LOOKS LIKE I WAS LATE TO THE PARTY....CONGRATS! (need pics)
 
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I agree. After 50+ years of riding 2 wheels, I decided to get off 2 wheels when I turned 80, so I sold my BMW R1200RT and bought a 2020 Spyder RT in August 2022. After unlearning long-term muscle memory for front braking and counter steering, riding the Spyder with more and more finesse paralleled time in the saddle. I can now ride with my old BMW 2 wheel riding buddies, and they are amazed that I keep up with them (mostly). I predict you'll love a Spyder in the end.
OOPS, LOOKS LIKE I WAS LATE TO THE PARTY....CONGRATS! (need pics)

Hi. No, not late to the party, just ordered and it arrives soon - end of the month, I think. I'm actually feeling a bit more settled now that I've read all the comments on here. I know I'll get the piss taken out of me by some bikers, but they may not all be riding for 55 years and then change, so we will see. I still love 2-wheelers and will always, but I'm the kind of guy who used to have a full cabinet of shotguns, but you only ever shot one at a time! I had lots of bikes, but only really rode one, so minimised everything, and I intend to have just the Spyder and my Trusty Volvo. I hope I am right in the saying Ride Learn, Ride Learn re Can Am's...
 
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I am 77 and have been riding motorcycle since I was 14 years old. I have always said that I would quit riding before I would ride a 3-wheeler. Well last summer I had an accident on my Harley Davidson; it was not my fault, but it scared the crap out of me because it could have been so much worse. So, after a talk with Jesus and my wife I decided that I might reconsider. Still not sure that I was ready for 3 wheels, I found a pristine 2011 RT-S at a reasonable price that I would try. Well, after riding it home, I was wondering what in the heck I had done because I hated this sucker. But it has been said that I was a little hardheaded, so I was not going to give up. After 800-1000 miles in the saddle, I feel in love. And even if my RT is old, I like the high torque 998 engine, and my riding buddy who has a 2020 RT never has to wait on me. I would say, get the Spyder and forget everything you ever knew about 2 wheels,5 and get back to enjoying life. Best wishes.
Leon
 
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Hi
thanks for the add I've been pondering on a Can Am Spyder RT Ltd 2024 for a few months now. I live in the UK, and I was an avid motorcyclist riding some 15,000 miles per year until late 2020, when a friend stuffed his BMW K1600 into my back end & I suffered a leg injury, and it's made my left leg a tad weak. But carrying on from that I continued to ride, and I rode KTM 1290 Super Adv and even bought my second new one last December. However, my right leg is now giving me sciatica from January and after an MRI and Hip scan it seems a new hip may be needed. Here in the UK, it's a waiting game unless you throw £14k at it private. So as I'm now 71 and been motorbiking over 55 years. I did a trip last month to Holland, Belgium, France, and Germany; some 2,000miles, but my 3 pals were having to lift my right leg over the saddle, and whilst riding I was in a lot of pain even with the meds doctor gave me. This can be seen on my youtube channel which I don't know if I'm allowed to show the link, so I have not.

NOW, to the point; as I'm not as confident, not as balanced, not as strong as I was riding 2 wheels, so should I try 3? That led me to ask my wife if she would come on the back like she used to do many years ago when I had a GL1800 Goldwing. I bought it home with me to the UK from Las Vegas whilst on holiday Stateside. The reply was maybe? That led onto going to 3 of our 5 or 6 Can Am UK dealers, and I rode a spyder for 10 mins, then I thought NO, it's not for me, the steering, the cornering was so wrong!

Then at a later date, I had another go, didn't grip the bars like a gorilla, leaned and pushed me leg into the turn and found it slightly better... So, without rambling on further before we all fall asleep, here are my questions to you experienced Spyder Riders....

1. Do long term 2-wheel lovers/riders get used to the Spyders quirks and get to learn to ride them?
2. Does the feeling of being an old, has-been biker fade away?
3. Are they any good on England's poor roads?
4. If I don't like it, does it become an unsellable white elephant?

I welcome your thoughts, good or bad...

Big Derek

Unless you're the type who finds extreme joy in really leaning in the turns and CANNOT live on a machine that cannot do it, you'll be very unhappy with a Spyder.

Other than that, they are fun and a blast to ride, and WAY safer.

Good luck !!

It WILL definitely extend your riding career, without a doubt.
 
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Congrats on the bike, and the t-shirt!

Here is a different perspective, I have been riding since 12 years old - starting on dirt. First vehicle when I got my drivers license was a dual sport Suzuki. I've owned and ridden cruisers, tourers, dual sports, but no sport bikes or trikes. I am a relatively healthy 50-something that rode a Spyder and thought is was something I wanted. I sold my Victory CCT and went in on an RT Sea to Sky. I love it - have taken several trips on it and is my work commuter when the weather allows. I do get good natured grief from my riding buddies, but all is good there. It took about 100 miles for me to get used to the differences, and about 500 miles to settle in. You will do fine. Enjoy the learning process, these things are a blast.

Welcome to the forum - any questions you have will be answered by this group. The members here are very knowledgable and are gracious in sharing what they know.

It will be cool to see your new bike when - pictures please!
 
I'll get on this thread and add my story.

Returned to riding 2 wheels at age 59. In 15 years, 3 motorcycles, 300,000 miles, 50 or so certified Iron Butt rides, 49 States, and all Provinces/Territories (all but one on my VTX) with roads, from a cruiser to a full dresser touring motorcycle, to a dual sport. I had been looking, testing, and renting Spyders for several years. I just wasn't ready a few years ago. However, I promised myself, God, and my wife that I would give up 2 wheels when I wanted to or couldn't handle 2 wheels. I also promised myself the dual sport would be my last of the 2 wheels.

I wasn't fired up to go to three wheels. I do not like traditional trikes; I've ridden them, don't like their handling. I seriously considered a sidecar rig. I went to a sidecar school. I toured two factories.

Last October I totaled my dual sport. I liked it very much. I was 74 then and still felt comfortable on it. However, I took that as a message to give up two wheels. Then my choice was to stop riding or buy a Spyder. I bought the Spyder RT Limited.

After 4,000 miles since February of 2024, including a long trip, I am happy I made the choice. Yes, there are quirks. All vehicles have quirks. You just have to learn to live with them. At my age I believe the pluses outweigh the minuses.

Since I had already made my mind up that the dual sport would be my last of 2 wheels, for me the most difficult part was to decide - do I want to keep riding and do I want to spend the money, wife and I are retired. The insurance company paid me well for my totaled motorcycle and I still wanted to ride. So the Spyder was bought.

I made up a list of pros, cons, and my opinions for another fellow who is struggling with the decision. I can post them or PM them if you are interested.
 
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Please, post the list.

You asked for me to post my pros and cons for a Spyder. Remember I am 75 and coming off of 300,000 miles in 15 years on two wheels, after many certified Iron Butt Association rides, and a lot of touring. I went from a Honda VTX 1300R to a Yamaha Royal Star Venture S, to a Triumph Tiger 900 GT. I liked them all for different reasons. I made all of them comfortable for me. I added an auxiliary tank for longer distances between required fill ups late at night. I can still safely ride two wheels anywhere I want to.

But at 75 I decided if I want to keep riding and enjoying it far into the future I would switch to 3 wheels. I seriously thought about a sidecar rig but figured a Spyder would be easier to resell later. I do not like the traditional trike. I do not like the handling of it. I have ridden all three of my choices including instruction on them. The Spyder was the winner. Since I like touring and riding long distances, I went with the Spyder RT Limited.

These are my opinions and observations. Please take them as such. I am not wanting to debate them. If you disagree, I don't could not care less. Everyone has their opinion.


Spyder RT Limited Pros and Cons (as compared to a 2-wheel motorcycle)

My comparison is to two wheels of many long-distance rides with an auxiliary fuel tank.
I have only had mine 4 months and 4,000 miles. I will know more after I do a SS1000. Don’t go by the number of pros and cons as some carry more weight than others. Each person's needs, wants, and requirements are different.

Be sure to test ride before you buy, probably more than once or twice. Try to make some on interstate and some on secondary roads. If you can rent one for a day or two that would be great. I rented one for two days. I rode about 500 miles including 100 local, 200 secondary highways, and 200 interstate. I liked it but at that time not enough to trade in my 2 wheels.

Pros:

In my opinion it is the best 3-wheel option. Beats not riding at all. It is stable. I like it. I feel safer. I still wear ATGATT.
It handles well on interstates at 75-80mph. Twisties are different.
Plenty of storage.
They have a lot of safety features. Great lights. It would be difficult to “flip” it. Safer than a trike.
Steady strong cross winds do not seem to affect it as much (less tiring) as on two wheels. Wind gusts are still felt but differently.
U-turns are easy.
Parking is not a problem. You don’t have to worry about the slope of the ground, it won’t fall over.
Do not have to put your feet down in heavy stop and go traffic or construction sites.
Do not have to hold in the clutch when stopped. It is semi-automatic. It has a thumb shifter. I’d rather have a foot shifter. You shift up
with no clutch. It will down shift automatically or you can down shift.

One brake, a pedal on the right foot operates all three brakes. ABS
As comfortable as any good touring motorcycle
It will not fall over.
Service intervals after the first 3000 miles is 9,300mi to keep warranty (2 years)
*Purchase 3 more years extended warranty $700 from Tom Parker @ I Motor Sports, Spyder dealer
630-634-8428, in Chicago area, 334 W Grand Ave, Elmhurst, IL 60126. It is a BRP BEST warranty, the same as dealers want from
$1700 to $2800.

Supposed to have a 7 gallon tank. May not be only 6 usable. I did manage to put 6.2 gallons in it with 33 miles left to empty, slow
process.

When new it comes with a hard copy owner’s manual. My last motorcycle only came with online manual.
A lot of aftermarket farkles. I’ve added several, of course only for comfort and for safety.


Cons:

Pricey but so is a Goldwing and many touring motorcycles.
Service can be expensive so can motorcycles.
It takes some getting used to. Very different from 2 wheels. I’ll aways miss two wheels on twisties.
Some say there are only 6 gallons of usable tank space. I will be experimenting. I have put in 6.2, very slowly, with 35 miles to empty
displayed. If in fact a person can use 7 gallons that is not bad even at 30 mpg. I am used to running an aux tank so 6 gallons
@75mph, for me, is a limiting factor.

A lot of plastic to remove for service. Goldwing? Even my Tiger 900 GT also had a lot to remove.
Twitchy steering when you first ride it. Just stay loose in your arms like riding a dirt bike. You will get used to it and even like it.
Steering is more sensitive to the irregular road surface than a motorcycle because of the 3 tracks.
It has three tracks making it more difficult to avoid debris in the road instead of one.
Extended warranty is expensive if bought through the dealers. See above.
*This is on the Con list because most touring motorcycles do better at speed. MPG should be between 30 & 35 at highway speeds. I’ll have to find out. Here is what I found out on a 3000-mile trip with varied highways and speeds. 75mph into a 20mph wind=28mpg. 75mph no wind=30 (maybe more). 65mph=33mpg. Below 65=40 and @ 55 a little better. Your mpg may vary.

Filling the fuel tank requires the raising of the rider’s seat. It is slow for a complete fill. Maybe modify filler hole for complete fill. Keep in mind on this con, I am used to sitting on my seat holding the motorcycle vertically to fill the tank to the top. I then would pull away from the pump if I needed to go inside.

The range on interstates may only be 170 miles before empty, start looking at 140. I got 200 on back roads. Not sure if the tank was as full as it could have been.

Can Bus electrical system or whatever they call it. A lot of vehicles use it now. A fuse block should be the way around it; I’ll see.
As far as I know tires are only available through BRP, not cheap but no motorcycle tire is. A few run car tires. Most shops won’t mount them. My research shows the wheel rim lip is like a car so car tires should work.

The owner’s manual lacks a lot, and has a lot to be desired, but there is one. I think they use the same manual for all Spyders.
The seat and tail trunk strut are a weak point. Good aftermarket options. Easy to replace.
 
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Hi Das, funnily enough, I saw my first RT on the road near Skegness yesterday. As to how many Can Ams are in the UK, I've no idea! Not many, as you never see them. I think there's 6 dealers in all?! Motorbikes that come from the UK are Norton, BSA, Triumph, Arial, etc. etc. so yeah, they are popular here. I also used to cover some 15k miles a year on 2-wheels for many years. So, this Spyder is a weird thing to me, but I'm being more open minded to it, and let's just see if it fits here for fun and a hang around the rides.

That's cool. Be prepared to be a Spyder Ambassador whenever you stop somewhere. Every time I'm at the gas pumps people stop and want to know all about it.
You're going to enjoy it, I'm sure. It took me about 300 miles to get the hang of it, but now it's like an old friend, and I'm very comfortable on it in every way.
Keep us posted on your new adventure into Spyder ownership.
Cheers & Beers!
 
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