Did a little experimenting with MPGs

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Mike, point well taken, but even when touring leisurely there's a point where I want to quit trying to get to that lip where the nozzle fits in the tank and get moving again. In a more important vein, I've always been concerned that trying to get the tank as full as absolutely possible increased the risk of getting gas in the purge valve, or bleed valve as it's called in the parts fiche (PN 709000443). Was that a problem peculiar to the V-Twins or the 1330 ACE engine too? I flat don't know and haven't heard about it here in a long time.

On the V-twins it was a major problem, I re-routed some of the tubes and solved it that way , or some just re-moved the cannister ..... from what I've seen of the 1330 platform / engine I think the lines are routed differently, so that can't happen ...... at least it's never occurred on my 14 RT ,,,,, Mike :thumbup:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Challenging yes, and a headache also. I've found that staying away from the newer larger stations that have the newer pumps helps with getting an accurately full tank. Older pumps commonly found at "mom & pop" stations are much easier to control when trying to stuff in that last gallon. EPA doesn't want you to have a full tank. Relying on auto shutoff to calculate your MPGs is not an accurate way to rely on. I've tried I don't know how many ways to overcome the frustration of dribbling in that last gallon to get a full tank, but there seems to be no better way than dribble dribble dribble. That extra gallon can mean the difference between a fun weekend and a not so fun weekend, if you know what I mean.

:agree: ..... I've been lucky here in Vt. .... lots of Mom & Pops places, and so far only a couple of Wanky pumps:roflblack:.....Mike :thumbup:

 

[JayBros]

On the V-twins it was a major problem, I re-routed some of the tubes and solved it that way , or some just re-moved the cannister ..... from what I've seen of the 1330 platform / engine I think the lines are routed differently, so that can't happen ...... at least it's never occurred on my 14 RT ,,,,, Mike :thumbup:

Thanks, Mike.

 

[2dogs]

That is the beauty of what JayBros and others are doing. You can make a mistake in filling, but over time and enuff miles the average takes that out of the equation. Also things like over it's lifetime it's cost me an average of 10 cents per mile, burning premium. Out of the 362 times I have added fuel 17 times I have gotten > 40 MPG and 105 times I have gotten < 30. Over those times there is an average of 1.47 MPG between what the bike says for MPG and what the actual calculation comes to.....calculation being higher.

My experience with the auto shut off feature is that over the years and in the many different stations I've used, I've found that there can be as much as a 1/2 gallon variation in where and when the pump shuts itself off. That can really play he!! with calculations and averages. I'm with BK911 here and I fill'er up to the ring in the neck just under the cap.

 

[EdMat]

My experience with the auto shut off feature is that over the years and in the many different stations I've used, I've found that there can be as much as a 1/2 gallon variation in where and when the pump shuts itself off. That can really play he!! with calculations and averages. I'm with BK911 here and I fill'er up to the ring in the neck just under the cap.

I do the same, and pump slowly till I get tired of waiting on the drain back so I can pump a bit more. It's just these little inconsistencies get ironed out over the long haul...if you keep the records..

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

My experience with the auto shut off feature is that over the years and in the many different stations I've used, I've found that there can be as much as a 1/2 gallon variation in where and when the pump shuts itself off. That can really play he!! with calculations and averages. I'm with BK911 here and I fill'er up to the ring in the neck just under the cap.

It's been my experience over the past 70,000+ miles on my 14 RT, that from FULL nozzle insertion and Auto Shut-off, then slowly adding gas until it gets to the RING .... I consistently add ... 1.3 gal .... to achieve MAX gas fill (1.3 gal. is a HUGE variation for a small gas tank) ..... for me this adds 50 miles range to each tank full of gas..... Since I'm rarely more than a max of 10 miles to a gas station, I can easily wait until the gauge shows TWO bars and then fill the tank. .... I mostly ride in State, in the northern half of Vermont...... Mike :thumbup: