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DESS Key Failure

ulflyer

ulflyer

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Been getting this "DESS" and "Key Failure" symbol off and on now for about month. Usually when the key is turned off and back on a time or two at most it starts. This morning, this didn't work and its a continuous orange light/key symbol. A code check shows P0000. Earlier they put the BUDs on it but it didn't show anything.

Mine was not on the list of earlier key problems.

Dealer not open today so it looks like a tow in tomorrow. :p
 
:shocked: "P0000" (I think!), is kind of a catch-all; "Don't know what happened... but something sure did!" sort of code! :yikes:
I know that we've kicked around options for keys; are you using an OEM key?
 
Bummer..!!

I guess not being on the list dosen't mean you can't have the problem. I'm sure you did the key walk if not worth a try so the computer resets...:gaah:
 
Bob Denman said:
:shocked: "P0000" (I think!), is kind of a catch-all; "Don't know what happened... but something sure did!" sort of code! :yikes:
I know that we've kicked around options for keys; are you using an OEM key?
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Yes, tried both OEM' key, got the same code.

I think the '14's use a diff code than the pre-'14's and the aftermarket keys couldn't be cloned by local key shops.
 
ulflyer said:
Been getting this "DESS" and "Key Failure" symbol off and on now for about month. Usually when the key is turned off and back on a time or two at most it starts. This morning, this didn't work and its a continuous orange light/key symbol. A code check shows P0000. Earlier they put the BUDs on it but it didn't show anything.

Mine was not on the list of earlier key problems.

Dealer not open today so it looks like a tow in tomorrow. :p
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The antenna around the ignition switch plugs directly into the DESS unit. I would suggest inspecting that connector. Not sure how much body work needs to come off to get at the DESS.
 
billybovine said:
The antenna around the ignition switch plugs directly into the DESS unit. I would suggest inspecting that connector. Not sure how much body work needs to come off to get at the DESS.
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Billy, thats beyond my skill level and much as I hate the idea of it being laid up at the dealer while they wait for parts, there's not much else I can do.

Went out this PM and it performed normally!! Still gonna take it up to shop in the morning to have them take a look at it. I suspect, unless it acts up for the BUDS, they're just gonna be guessing at it.
 
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ulflyer said:
Billy, thats beyond my skill level and much as I hate the idea of it being laid up at the dealer while they wait for parts, there's not much else I can do.

Went out this PM and it performed normally!! Still gonna take it up to shop in the morning to have them take a look at it. I suspect, unless it acts up for the BUDS, they're just gonna be guessing at it.
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I understand, and feel; your pain... :shocked:


Good luck at the dealership; please let us know what they find! :thumbup:
 
A lack of codes really doesn't mean a lack of difficulties... :shocked:
Once they see the message on the screen; it's time to break out the wrenches, and replace some wonky parts! :yikes:
 
I've received a keyblank; with room in it for a chip! :thumbup:
My question: how does this thing come apart for chip placement? :dontknow:
 
Bob Denman said:
I've received a keyblank; with room in it for a chip! :thumbup:
My question: how does this thing come apart for chip placement? :dontknow:
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Never heard of a key that comes apart. And where would you get a chip that works on the '14? Thought they were different from the pre-14's. I do know the pre-'14 clones don't work in the '14.
 
New Ignition set ordered

Got up to Winston at 9:15, drove right into the shop. Shortly afterward, tech and svc mngr conferred and decided it needs a new ignition. They thought they had one on the shelf, but didn't, so its on order and should be in this week unless it happens to be one of those items on back order. Tech remarked he had done a couple others that wasn't on the recall list.

I just hope I don't get stranded somewhere between now and then. :D

Edited Fri: Part came in yesterday; went out this morning and got the "key failure" repeatedly over a period of an hour or so. Was about to call for a Tow and as a last resort, gave it a few moderate whacks with a rubber hammer. That did the trick! Rode it on up and two hours later it was done. They have to pull the left side panel, front headlight/s, etc to get to the wiring and such. Brp only allows for an hour and half but it truly took 2 hours. Made sure the tech "felt" my appreciation!
 
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Never heard of a key that comes apart. And where would you get a chip that works on the '14? Thought they were different from the pre-14's. I do know the pre-'14 clones don't work in the '14.
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I've got a TP-12 Crypto chip coming (Backorders! :gaah:)
Once I've got that; in theory, I can put together a key that'll take the programming from bRP... (I hope! :shocked:)
 
ulflyer said:
Got up to Winston at 9:15, drove right into the shop. Shortly afterward, tech and svc mngr conferred and decided it needs a new ignition. They thought they had one on the shelf, but didn't, so its on order and should be in this week unless it happens to be one of those items on back order. Tech remarked he had done a couple others that wasn't on the recall list.

I just hope I don't get stranded somewhere between now and then. :D
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Switches on the 2014 seem to be an issue along with oil leaks. Seems every year Spyder has it's own issues :dontknow:
 
Got my chip today; now all I need is a break-in service to be reached! :thumbup:
(It'll gvie me the opportunity to throw everything at the dealer, with instructions to, "Make some Magic Happen!"
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