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DESS Key code again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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trikermutha
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I'm pretty sure I have read everything posted about DESS …. I don't think BRP has this issue figured out …. from what others have posted it appears that the antennae effects about 10% of the failures 90% are the MODULE ( only ) …..good luck …. Mikehyea:
On post #758 click on the (DESS PDF) it explains why this is happening.
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BLUEKNIGHT911
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On post #758 click on the (DESS PDF ) it explains why this is happening.
Read it - and IF this is really the answer …… then WHY are they still failing after one does the Antennae FIX - ?????? ……….. Mike
hyea: ………… and I'll repeat something I've said dozens of times …. Prior to 2014 there was almost no DESS failures ….. then they decided to fix a NOT BROKEN PROBLEM …… and we know how that went !!!!
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Read it - and IF this is really the answer …… then WHY are they still failing after one does the Antennae FIX - ?????? ……….. Mike
I have read it and all I am been reading on all the posts is the Module been replaced.
hyea: Some have done module and ignition. hyea: Does that include the antenna.:dontknow:So we are discussing the most recent Spyder correct? The ones with the DESS issue.
Now All I was asking/saying is if anyone has the new antenna installed have you had the DESS screen yet?
I really see no posts on the antenna being replaced.
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BLUEKNIGHT911
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I have read it and all I am been reading on all the posts is the Module been replaced.
So we are discussing the most recent Spyder correct? The ones with the DESS issue.
Now All I was asking/saying is if anyone has the new antenna installed have you had the DESS screen yet?
I really see no posts on the antenna being replaced.
:hun:...I'm not positive but I believe the Ignition switch contains the Antennae and the Antennae is not sold or installed separately …. sort of what BRP was doing with the Windshield ARM until recently ……. " recent Spyder " ???? ….. the DESS issue really began with the 2014 models and has continued with all the subsequent years ….. Mike
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trikermutha
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:hun:...I'm not positive but I believe the Ignition switch contains the Antennae and the Antennae is not sold or installed separately …. sort of what BRP was doing with the Windshield ARM until recently ……. " recent Spyder " ???? ….. the DESS issue really began with the 2014 models and has continued with all the subsequent years ….. Mike
Yes and NO
Looks like the ignition does include the antenna. And the antenna can be replaced separately per the DESS bulletin posted on #758.
2014 years on up correct. Not sure why you brought up prior MY's?? :gaah:
Now I am wondering IF the antenna part number have changed since 2014 more than one time :dontknow:
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IdahoMtnSpyder
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Up through 2013 DESS problems were unknown. The system was different but still used chipped keys.
I have a 2014 RT Limited with about 8800 miles. I had this problem a couple days ago. DESS ERROR with picture of a key.
Go To You Tube and search for Spyder Bad Key Fixed. I tried this with the tin foil and it works. I did not take the ignition apart assembly apart..just wrapped a small amount of tin foil around the trim ring where key goes in and it started. Did it several times. If you watch the video on you tube it makes sense Now today it starts as normal with no tin foil
Hope this helps
Go To You Tube and search for Spyder Bad Key Fixed. I tried this with the tin foil and it works. I did not take the ignition apart assembly apart..just wrapped a small amount of tin foil around the trim ring where key goes in and it started. Did it several times. If you watch the video on you tube it makes sense Now today it starts as normal with no tin foil
Hope this helps
Deanna777
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HI, I had the DESS antenna replaced when I had my first DESS module replaced, back in 2015. Also, I posted it when had the antenna replaced.
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Yes, I have not had the DESS error since I have had the DESS module replaced ( 5 years ago).So it sounds like its still working. That was the information I was looking for.
Now changing out the antenna is going to be a PIA. Since I have the TRIAXIS bars on there now. Thought I could feed all that thru the small opening at the key switch. But now that I think about it I still maybe able to do this without taking off the whole dam fairing. :yikes:
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I have read it and all I am been reading on al the posts is the Module been replaced.
So we are discussing the most recent Spyder correct? The ones with the DESS issue.
Now All I was asking/saying is if anyone has the new antenna installed have you had the DESS screen yet?
I really see no posts on the antenna being replaced.
When I had the DESS Module and Antenna replaced on the 2nd time, i have not had the DESS error. Also, My spyder has 15,000 miles + ( total of 25,890miles) since I have had the DESS module/ antenna replaced.
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As was mentioned in the other thread where you posted this, it's a temporary fix and may get you home when in a pickle.
Question 1: Where is the DESS physically located on a Spyder F3? Spent way too much time reading through this thread and didn't that anywhere?
Question 2: Looks like Lamonster Garage at 500 miles is the closest to Indianapolis who can disable the DESS. Anyone else closer?
Question 3: Once it does the complete failure thing - can you trailer the bike to someone to disable it - or do you need to get a good key read first to disable it?
Question 2: Looks like Lamonster Garage at 500 miles is the closest to Indianapolis who can disable the DESS. Anyone else closer?
Question 3: Once it does the complete failure thing - can you trailer the bike to someone to disable it - or do you need to get a good key read first to disable it?
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BLUEKNIGHT911
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#1. - I have a pic of EXACTLY where it's located on an RT .........
#2. - ???? .......
#3.- I think it has to be functioning .....
#4. - If it fails .... turn ignition on/off 5 times rapidly .... that worked for me ..... Mike :thumbup:
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Deanna777
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Question 1. I am not sure wear the DESS module is located on F3 spyder.
Question 2. Email Lamonster Garage and ask them if there is anyone closer or have them disable the DESS.
Question 3. Email Lamonster Garage for that answer.
What year is your F3 spyder?
Do you still have warranty/or B.E.S.T coverage on the spyder?
If you still have warranty /or B.E.S.T coverage on your spyder make an appointment with your can am dealership, have them open up a case with BRP and make sure that your can am dealership has the parts. Have your can am dealership run it thru the warranty or B.E.S.T.
Hope this helps.
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2014 RTL I get the DESS error every once in awhile. I'll go a couple of months without one, then it'll pop up two or three days in a row. No rhyme or reason at all. Most of the time when it hits, I'll just turn off the key, and quickly turn it back on. Wet or dry, hot or cold, it doesn't matter. Never been stranded because of it, knock on wood!!
BLUEKNIGHT911
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Once the DESS code appears ..... it is only a matter of time to When it WILL FAIL not IF it will fail. This part will not Heal itself .... and nothing you do will get the Spyder re-started - Period. ... 99.9 % of these DESS issues began in 2014 after some Dumb A** engineer decided to fix a part that wasn't Broken. Then they started to have issues, and it took a couple of years for BRP to get that part to function with better reliability. So if stay close to home and near a dealer and hope it takes less than 3 weeks to get it fixed, then don't worry about it ..... good luck .... Mike :thumbup:
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