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Dealer Profit ???

Supply and demand

Usually, the dealer knows a lot more facts about, cost, service expenses and profits than the customer. The customer has to get most of their information from the dealer. It is the job of every smart customer to find out the true facts from many different sources. It is really easy to buy a Spyder or other vehicle if you do not care what you spend. In my opinion, timing of the purchase is the most important aspect of getting a good deal. If you are buying a new model that just hit the showroom linoleum do not expect to get a super deal. If you wait until the end of the model year (like right now) and go educate yourself from different sites on the internet your can find a great deal. Once you get the right offer and you are going to have to travel to get it, why not see if your local dealer can match the offer with estimated travel costs added to the low offer. That is what I did and the lower offer dealer was $1800 less still. Guess where I went. I was fair with all and made the best deal for me. I just happened to be at the right place at the right time. They needed/wanted to sell the unit. My local dealer will be more than happy to take my money on service.
 
Reading over this subject brings a few things to mind. When I buy something like a motorcycle/Spyder car, I look for the total package. Unit price is important, but what about service ? The ability to go in and ask questions and getting answere. I can get service work done (oil change) done cheaper, but is it worth it to wait a week or two.
A example. You find a nail in your tire a couple days before a big event. You go in and want ( demand ?) it be fixed. You have never bought anything there, but go in to price things, then go buy on line or someplace else. He says, he has three a head of you, apparently somebody spilled nails at bike nite. You get mad and demand service the others can wait. You get service in a few days, after the event. I would take my custumers first. Otherwise I might not have a business.
Oldmanzues
 
initial cost is always important; but the service after that one painful moment is what will either make up for it; or have you madder than a wet hen for a VERY long time! ;)
 
I will throw in a couple of cents of MHO. It is wise to try and close on what you feel is a "good deal" for you. Most of us try and do that. But from reading your comments about the pros and cons of other people's inputs, you may want to look at the cost of keeping your future "toy" maintained according to BRP standards. If you think that $1500 is a lot of profit for a dealer on the sale, you will choke up on the cost of maintenance.
 
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