If it were not for Dltang and Brian letting my wife and myself try their seats at Lamonte's picnic we would not have bought one, thank you both very much. We were unable to get the group discount as they had already filled the limit, we paid $1100. We got the Dual(the front and the back both done),the heavy duty suspension for the rear(small leaf springs molded into the foam for more support), the fully adjustable backrest,leather inserts in the seats and the backrest,half moon pattern.I have a terrible back and it is really worth the money, would be even better if you got the discount. I told my wife that if I had sent them a butt print, they could not have made the seat fit better.:2thumbs: