D.I.Y. oil change o ring kit

[Cobwebs]

Searched but couldn't find the sizes for all the o rings and crush washers to complete an oil change.I need to stock up from ebay does anyone have this information at hand? I know I should have saved the old ones but didn't see the need at the time.:banghead:
I have bought from BajaRon before but freight cost is silly now for such little items from US.Mostly postage free from China.:banghead: Local suppliers buy from China and multiply by five or more so they're out:banghead: Can Am blackmail you by requiring the purchase of their oil to get the full o- ring kit so I've divorced them:banghead:
Also why one copper and one aluminium crush washer, anyone know the science behind that.Can one be substituded for the other? Please help my head hurts.:cheers:

 

[pegasus1300]

I don't have the information you are looking for per se,but I do know this,if you want the correct o rings and copper washers(they are not crush washers) then contact BajaRon a supporting vendor on this sight and he will fix you up with as many as you want all in a package. Check the Home page for his info.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Searched but couldn't find the sizes for all the o rings and crush washers to complete an oil change.I need to stock up from ebay does anyone have this information at hand? I know I should have saved the old ones but didn't see the need at the time.:banghead:
I have bought from BajaRon before but freight cost is silly now for such little items from US.Mostly postage free from China.:banghead: Local suppliers buy from China and multiply by five or more so they're out:banghead: Can Am blackmail you by requiring the purchase of their oil to get the full o- ring kit so I've divorced them:banghead:
Also why one copper and one aluminium crush washer, anyone know the science behind that.Can one be substituded for the other? Please help my head hurts.:cheers:

I re-use " O " rings all the time .... my 14 RT has had 10 oil changes and the " O " rings ( filter and plugs ) have been re-used for all of them ..... a rubber " O " ring that is not part of " moving " parts rarely needs replacing .... when / if they break replace ..... jmho ..... Mike

 

[Cobwebs]

I don't have the information you are looking for per se,but I do know this,if you want the correct o rings and copper washers(they are not crush washers) then contact BajaRon a supporting vendor on this sight and he will fix you up with as many as you want all in a package. Check the Home page for his info.

OK for you guys close by but out here in the sticks if I order a dozen sets its A$173 with $37 of that being postage.:banghead:
If I can work out the sizes I'll have a lifetime supply for way less than the postage alone.

 

[Cobwebs]

I re-use " O " rings all the time .... my 14 RT has had 10 oil changes and the " O " rings ( filter and plugs ) have been re-used for all of them ..... a rubber " O " ring that is not part of " moving " parts rarely needs replacing .... when / if they break replace ..... jmho ..... Mike

What are the implications of one of the O rings splitting under pressure on the sump bolt or filter thingo though Mike.They seem like a fancy design for some reason to me. Could be the first indication of one letting go is a rattle :dontknow:ray: For a few cents and an easy change why risk it?

 

[trikermutha]

I went to mcmastercare and bought washers with the rubber seals on them per JCThorne recommendation. They are reusable .. its posted somewhere just need to do a search and find them now for sizes.

Found it.

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums...Replacement-2018-RT&highlight=sealing+washers

 

[Greven]

I went to mcmastercare and bought washers with the rubber seals on them per JCThorne recommendation. They are reusable .. its posted somewhere just need to do a search and find them now for sizes.

Found it.

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums...Replacement-2018-RT&highlight=sealing+washers

They are also called Tredo washers, might help when searching for them

 

[trikermutha]

They are also called Tredo washers, might help when searching for them

I am sure they are called other things too like bonding washers.
That should help too on searching. ��

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

What are the implications of one of the O rings splitting under pressure on the sump bolt or filter thingo though Mike.They seem like a fancy design for some reason to me. Could be the first indication of one letting go is a rattle :dontknow:ray: For a few cents and an easy change why risk it?

IMHO, you ( me ) are more likely to damage a rubber washer / O-ring, either removing it or putting it on ..... Mike :thumbup:

 

[ARtraveler]

RE: Shipping

Please note the OP is from Australia. That is the reason for the complaints about high shipping costs. :bowdown:

 

[BajaRon]

Shipping has gotten outrageous! The reason China can ship for 'Free' is that the government subsides it.

I can ship 4 seal kits for $8.30 USD. 8 seal kits for $9.35 USD. And 12 seal kits for $10.40 USD.

The seal kits are $6.95 each. 12 seal kits would be $83.40 USD. Making 12 seal kits (delivered to Australia) about $136.00 AUD total cost.

 

[pegasus1300]

AR thank you for pointing that out. I had not noticed that, it does make a big difference.

 

[Cobwebs]

I went to mcmastercare and bought washers with the rubber seals on them per JCThorne recommendation. They are reusable .. its posted somewhere just need to do a search and find them now for sizes.

Found it.

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums...Replacement-2018-RT&highlight=sealing+washers

Good information, thankyou.I wonder does the thickness matter. I've found some at 1.5mm and others 2.0mm, given that there are two o rings sealing something in the engine would half a millimetre screw that up somehow?:dontknow:

 

[BajaRon]

Good information, thankyou.I wonder does the thickness matter. I've found some at 1.5mm and others 2.0mm, given that there are two o rings sealing something in the engine would half a millimetre screw that up somehow?:dontknow:

It matters to a point. It depends on application. Low or no pressure O-Ring applications like the Spyder are pretty forgiving.

It's not a primary and secondary seal. 1 O-Ring seals one end, and the other seals the other end with a flow port in-between. Both need to work as they have no secondary backup.

 

[Cobwebs]

IMHO, you ( me ) are more likely to damage a rubber washer / O-ring, either removing it or putting it on ..... Mike :thumbup:

My first oil change did prove your point actually Mike. I think it was the green o ring had a small piece split on it that was still attached to the inner wall of the o ring..........just!
Came from the factory like it, only visible when I removed it.Glad I did, who knows where it would have ended up if it came free. So for me the moral of the story was, its the bits you can't see that can cause the grief.

 

[Cobwebs]

Shipping has gotten outrageous! The reason China can ship for 'Free' is that the government subsides it.

I can ship 4 seal kits for $8.30 USD. 8 seal kits for $9.35 USD. And 12 seal kits for $10.40 USD.

The seal kits are $6.95 each. 12 seal kits would be $83.40 USD. Making 12 seal kits (delivered to Australia) about $136.00 AUD total cost.

Free market isn't exactly the mantra of USA either but I digress.
I must be missing something Ron, fleabay is quoting me $119.89 for the goods, $37.13 postage $15.71 GST.
Total $172.73

The heck with that come on spill the beans break out the vernier :helpsmilie::cheers:

 

[BajaRon]

Free market isn't exactly the mantra of USA either but I digress.
I must be missing something Ron, fleabay is quoting me $119.89 for the goods, $37.13 postage $15.71 GST.
Total $172.73

The heck with that come on spill the beans break out the vernier :helpsmilie::cheers:

What you are missing are the eBay/Paypal fees, their shipping policies and the new (we're here to help) national tax being collected for most countries now. The most expensive place to purchase anything from me is eBay. The least expensive way to get it is by a direct sale.

And you're right. America has been a socialist country in many ways for a long time. And we're headed for much more. I don't know why people can't see it. Saying that you're not socialist isn't the same as actually being non-socialist. We have gotten away with it for this long because our GDP is so tremendous. Sooner or later, our chickens will come home to roost. But I'm not supposed to talk about these realities... ;-)

 

[BertRemington]

What came out of my 1330 was a copper washer on the gearbox drain plug (TL) and an aluminum washer on engine drain plug (still on plug). My Gold Plug MP-18 came with an aluminum washer (TR). My Can-Am XPS oil change kit came with aluminum washers (ML and MR). I used captive seal washers instead (BL and BR).

 

[Cobwebs]

What came out of my 1330 was a copper washer on the gearbox drain plug (TL) and an aluminum washer on engine drain plug (still on plug). My Gold Plug MP-18 came with an aluminum washer (TR). My Can-Am XPS oil change kit came with aluminum washers (ML and MR). I used captive seal washers instead (BL and BR).
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What thickness captive seals did you use Bert ?

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I need to stock up from ebay does anyone have this information at hand?

Wasn't at hand, but I got it! This should help, I think! Ever tried measuring the diameter of a flexible ring? My numbers should be close, but they are a bit squishy! (pun intended!)

The O-ring numbers are OD x Thickness. The washer numbers are OD x ID. All are mm.