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[Hokiev]

Jerbear,

I live near northern VA and I too have similar issues you have been dealing with regarding the excessive heat.
Most noticeable when temps are in the 90+, but is always there. It does not bother me when the weather is cooler, but is very uncomfortable when temps get up there and in stop and go traffic, which is the norm in this area.

I have tried the aftermarket heat blocking devices and they help to a small extent, but not to the point of solving the problem.

I too resent when others who don't have the problem don't appreciate the problem we are having and seem to think we are just inexperienced ryders who don't understand what ryding a motorcycle is about, i.e. exposed engines in close quarters will give off heat...live with it.

It would be nice if BRP would admit that at least some of us have issues with the design and let us know they are looking at a solution. I expect that is not happening because to admit that design flaw and the costs to fix for current owners is prohibitive.

 

[Jeriatric]

Jerbear,

I live near northern VA and I too have similar issues you have been dealing with regarding the excessive heat.
Most noticeable when temps are in the 90+, but is always there. It does not bother me when the weather is cooler, but is very uncomfortable when temps get up there and in stop and go traffic, which is the norm in this area.

I have tried the aftermarket heat blocking devices and they help to a small extent, but not to the point of solving the problem.

I too resent when others who don't have the problem don't appreciate the problem we are having and seem to think we are just inexperienced ryders who don't understand what ryding a motorcycle is about, i.e. exposed engines in close quarters will give off heat...live with it.

It would be nice if BRP would admit that at least some of us have issues with the design and let us know they are looking at a solution. I expect that is not happening because to admit that design flaw and the costs to fix for current owners is prohibitive.

Here's my take. I, like many others had the belt vibration problem. It was evident on my first ride (over 1600 miles). I didn't get excited about it because CaptJim offered a perfectly reasonable solution and I spent the bucks to clear the problem. That's all I'm looking for hear. I don't want to make anyone look bad, tho, they may bring that upon themselves..... (BRP not answering a reasonably worded request for help for example). All we need is assurance that there is a mod that will work, and will not VOID any part of our warranty. If they want to help us that's all they need to do. Just a little help.

Thanks for your post.

 

[Tigger]

My wife complained about the heat on my Roadglide so much that I bought her :spyder2: now she complains about the Sypder's heat.:banghead:and:banghead:

 

[boborgera]

Jerbear,

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It would be nice if BRP would admit that at least some of us have issues with the design and let us know they are looking at a solution. I expect that is not happening because to admit that design flaw and the costs to fix for current owners is prohibitive.

You should accept things that you can't change,
But BRP shouldn't be one of them. :dontknow:

 

[Arr MiHardies]

Just spitballing here. I wonder if those air "scoops" on the front of the Spyder could be used to direct air over the top of the engine, instead of just to an air filter, then continue channeling it down a tube and out the back of the machine. Radiator could dump heat into the channel as well.

 

[Yazz]

All we need is assurance that there is a mod that will work, and will not VOID any part of our warranty.

:agree:

 

[Jeriatric]

You should accept things that you can't change,
But BRP shouldn't be one of them. :dontknow:

I wrote this for myself many years ago.

"Identify what you have control over and find peace with what you don't"

 

[Jeriatric]

Remove the airbox.

We have been following that idea closely. Here's our dilemma. Because the fuel system is designed to richen and lean out based on atmospheric temperature it could easily put those of us in high temp areas in a very lean condition. That could cause BIG problems. That's exactly why we need BRP working with us instead of ignoring us.

 

[Jeriatric]

Since I live in a very temperate clime and duck into airconditioning at temperatures over 75° F I'm not qualified to speak to that or any warranty issue that it might cause.

However I can not fathom how surrounding the engine with air that is, at times, a temperature for which the FI was designed to operate in could cause a lean mixture.
Supercooling the air to say 0° F might have an effect but simply lowering 30 or so degrees ... well suffice it to say I'm not bright enough to see a problem.
It's not as if you are operating outside any parameters by lowering the air temp and thus the density.

Won't pretend to be an expert on it either. It's just that the way I understand things is when you increase air flow(larger filter) IT messes with air/fuel mixture. I've heard the RT will auto adjust from it's set fuel position to around 20%. If the set position is already lean to begin with and more air is introduced it could lean it out to much. Again, I don't pretend to know more than that, and what I've said could be very wrong.

 

[MidLifeCrisis]

Just so people are clear about heat tolerance being the main issue, us desert rats are pretty tough. I'm actually one of the crazy ones who pedals up rocky desert trails in 118 plus temps, so believe me, it's nit a heat tolerance issue.

While I wouldn't expect BRP to give anyone riding in those temps and complaining the time of day, torched limbs and feeling like you're getting cooked by the flame thrower in 90+ degree temps is ridiculous.

90+ degree temps don't seem to be equal either. I don't seem to have nearly the issue at higher elevations. BRP just needs to come down to the areas where the complaints seem to be with their equipment and see fir themselves.

I've seen Jer's email to BRP. It was very respectful, clear and very calm, with a plea to please look into our legitimate complaint. There's absolutely no reason why they shouldn't have at least acknowledged the correspondence.

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