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Couple more questions ....

Two 2 wheelers and an RT here. My wife rides the spyder, but I also enjoy it. No trouble switching back and forth. 2012 RTL, 2010 Vulcan Voyager, 2014 Suzuki V Strom.
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I have a "barn full " of 2 wheelers (WR250r is my favorite). I live 1 mile down a dirt road from my front gate and when it rains for a week the only vehicle that will get me to work is Hulda, my URAL Gear Up in 2 wheel drive. The "transition" to the Spyder RTS was seamless. I am 78 years old and my WR has a Scott steering stabilizer on it to give me those nano seconds to react to a big hit that I don't have anymore like I used to have when I was 18. I have only had the RT about 1,000 miles so far and I really like it.
 
I am 69 and have a F3S and a Ducati 821 Monster. Love the Spyder but I also enjoy riding on 2 wheels. My only issue is finding enough time to ride both. My wife has a RT-S and a Yamaha FZ-07.

If you have time enjoy both!
 
As far as "dealing" goes. Dealers are all over the place with pricing. I wasn't looking to do a long distance buy. Found a dealer 4 hours away in Hanover, PA.. Tammy the owner not only was very welcoming. But very open to, and wanted trades. We received $3500 over wholesale for our trade. And still got $1600 off on our F3 Limited. An additional 15% off anything we wanted. I asked, I had to, for more. She had given us so much for our trade in she had no more to give on the new F3. So there is lots of room for them to negotiate!. :thumbup: Tom :spyder:
 
I hate to haggle. Just not my nature. Confrontation is not a problem, I just don't like trying to talk someone down in price. I ask for their best price, then see what it is. I re-ask if that is their best offer and if it's OK, I take it. If not I walk and don't respond.

Local dealer was confusing me (even tho he did not have the Spyder I wanted). He said there was a BRP incentive of $1500 off the sticker price of the bike. Then said that the tax would have to be done on the sticker price, then the $1500 would be taken off ... then uncrating fee, set-up fee, shipping fee, doc fee, registration, yada, yada. When he was done, the $1500 was back in the price plus some. I said I could do a good deal better out of state and asked if he could do better. He said "No ... these other guys just want to dump the bikes before winter sets in". OK.

I left and got a deal ~$3500 off sticker, delivered free with only a $165 doc fee. Plus, gave me a break on the heated grips, and fogs ... and took off the labor to install same. He said he'd give me a good deal on any accessories I purchased for up to a year. I'm good with that. The local guy can sit on the bike.
 
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