Continuing DESS Issue?

[bayoubill]

Just a bit of clarification for me please.
I just got a 2014 RT one week ago and have seen the orange screen come up twice. Each time I cycled the key off and then immediately back on and the bike started. Am I headed for failure ?

in my experience yes

 

[petew]

Ok then , guess I'll be ordering myself one of 710004916.
Fortunately I have to venture inside the bodywork to switch out my gps harness so I'll pull the frunk off at the same time and change out that module.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Ok then , guess I'll be ordering myself one of 710004916.
Fortunately I have to venture inside the bodywork to switch out my gps harness so I'll pull the frunk off at the same time and change out that module.

I have pics in one of my albums showing where it is and where I re-located it to afterwards …. Mike hyea:

 

[petew]

Thank you sir , I’ll have a look

 

[Deanna777]

Just a bit of clarification for me please.
I just got a 2014 RT one week ago and have seen the orange screen come up twice. Each time I cycled the key off and then immediately back on and the bike started. Am I headed for failure ?

Yes,you are headed for a failure. I have a had the D.E.S.S module replaced twice ( both times under warranty, I have a 2014 RTS-SE6) and the ignition switch replaced once( under warranty).

Get the D.E.S.S module replaced.

Deanna

 

[petew]

Yes,you are headed for a failure. I have a had the D.E.S.S module replaced twice ( both times under warranty, I have a 2014 RTS-SE6) and the ignition switch replaced once( under warranty).

Get the D.E.S.S module replaced.

Deanna

New one is on order ,should have it this week. When I do the install I will relocate it as BlueKnight911 did . Also plan to buy a back up and keep it with me if I travel.

 

[bayoubill]

i went ahead and changed the antenna too on my 2015 rs,

 

[Pictreed]

I'm going to get in on this so it's easier to locate later because we had this error the first time we brought our 2014 home but thought it was low battery. Maybe I should relocate as others suggested and keep a spare module with me?

Tim

 

[bayoubill]

I'm going to get in on this so it's easier to locate later because we had this error the first time we brought our 2014 home but thought it was low battery. Maybe I should relocate as others suggested and keep a spare module with me?

Tim

i found on mine when it quit for good i could raise the antenna and it would start every time, you can turn the ring under the key with pliars and pull it off and pry the antenna up higher without removing anything, and without damaging anything if you're careful, i had to get my antenna so high to start it you couldn't leave it that way though. just something to get you home.

 

[jaherbst]

Mike did you get this from the factory or discover it yourself? I have been lucky so far and hope I will never have to try this. It is an interesting concept though.

Has anyone heard how Bob Denman is doing?

Jack

 

[Peter Aawen]

..... Has anyone heard how Bob Denman is doing?

Jack

That's just a bit off topic Jack but the latest news is here: https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?125157-Email-exchange-w-Bob-Denman

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Mike did you get this from the factory or discover it yourself? I have been lucky so far and hope I will never have to try this. It is an interesting concept though.

Has anyone heard how Bob Denman is doing?

Jack

What Mike are you referring to ???? ...…… ( Mike aka BLUEKNIGHT911 )???? ………...…… Mike hyea:

 

[Lew L]

i found on mine when it quit for good i could raise the antenna and it would start every time, you can turn the ring under the key with pliars and pull it off and pry the antenna up higher without removing anything, and without damaging anything if you're careful, i had to get my antenna so high to start it you couldn't leave it that way though. just something to get you home.

Hi Bill,
I got the key ring off easy enough ( just a 1/8 turn to the left and it comes right off) BUT---- is the antenna the silvery ring around the opening for the key?????? and how did you pry it up????

Thanks, Lew L

 

[trikermutha]

The antenna is a black ring around the key switch and can have resistance when trying to move it. There are also a couple of tabs that it seats into around the ignition switch.

 

[bayoubill]

go to thread " Comfort Impossible for a RSS? "in post 25 the left pic of switch the antenna is the ring on the botttom of the pic that has a wire going to it, you can see the tabs on it and the knobs it slides down over, the top ring that turns holds it on

 

[Lew L]

OK Bill,

Looks like I can pry upwards using the thin ,vertical slots. Do you think the DESS problem is caused by too strong a signal ( as some have said ) or by too WEAK a signal?????? ( which raising the antenna would solve.) Just wish I could shut off the DESS system completely.:dontknow:

Lew L

 

[bayoubill]

i think too weak, on mine i could pry it up a little and when you turn the key just the ba of bad key error would come up then the mode scroll stuff that normally comes up, if i pulled it almost to the key head it would start normally, so obviously it needed a stronger signal, i am still going to get it turned off if i ever find someone close to do it, i was thinking if i had it to do over i would just put the new module in and plug in the new antenna{it plugs to module}, and run the antenna wire out in to the frunk, tape it around my extra key head, find a way to secure it and leave it that way, leave the old antenna on the switch un hooked, then you could start it with any key.

 

[PinkRosePetal]

i found on mine when it quit for good i could raise the antenna and it would start every time, you can turn the ring under the key with pliars and pull it off and pry the antenna up higher without removing anything, and without damaging anything if you're careful, i had to get my antenna so high to start it you couldn't leave it that way though. just something to get you home.

That's interesting, what year bike have you got?

 

[Lew L]

Hi Bill,

After removing the plastic cover and seeing how to raise the antenna---- I looked again at the plastic cover. A few moments with the trusty Dremel tool and I could open the notch to allow the antenna to be raised 1/8 to 3/16" and still have the key fully functional. I'll give it a try today.

Lew L

 

[bayoubill]

Hi Bill,

After removing the plastic cover and seeing how to raise the antenna---- I looked again at the plastic cover. A few moments with the trusty Dremel tool and I could open the notch to allow the antenna to be raised 1/8 to 3/16" and still have the key fully functional. I'll give it a try today.

Lew L

im not sure what you are saying , you should be able to pull the antenna all the way up till it hits the key head without grinding anything. it just sits down on the switch, nothing holds it on but the trim ring you turn to pull off.