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Considering Going From 2 to 3 Wheels

If you like oil and tire discussions, we will not disappoint.

That is hysterical! Those threads sure do get a lot of traction for some reason! My right hand to God, I'll never start an oil or a tire thread.

Thanks for the input.


Mike
 
Well, I think this is a dead deal right now. I think I mentioned that my wife rides also. She was down with the idea of getting rid of both bikes and going to the CanAm. We went on a ride through one of the state forests on two wheels. When we got back as soon as she took her helmet off she said she was not ready to give up her bike. We have an oversized 3-car but two vehicles, 2 motorcycles, one scooter and a golf cart coming in the near future. I just don't have the space for the CanAm and the other items without giving up my shop space (and I like to tinker). Thanks for all of the input guys! It seems like a really friendly group of contributors here. Anyhow, we shall see what the future holds!
 
Yeah, everyone has different drivers, AR. Longevity is on my radar, but not strongly. I get a much more sure-footed feeling from my aftermarket tyres than from the Kendas, which is why I chose that route. :thumbup:

My Federal's went on yesterday late in the day. Discount tire was unable to balance them as they did not have a cone that would fit in the wheel. Based on what I have read about there lack of needing much weight to be balanced I will take it for a spin today before seeking out someone who can balance them. The tire tech did say that he mounted them with the colored dot at the valve location, which he said the tire manufacture puts on the tires for that purpose. Lamonster currently has the front wheel only Centramatic "out of Stock" or I would maybe order those. They have the three wheel kit available, however spending another 100 bucks for the rear??? Many do not even try to balance the rear wheels. If I need the fronts balanced I will call Nash in Mesa and ask how they get them balanced.
 
The Spyder is a fun machine, but it will never take the place of a good handling motorcycle. If I get to the point where balance, and
heft preclude motorcycling, then a Spyder is the next best thing. It's fun, but it's not a motorcycle. Think of it as a very small
sports car that encourages you to move about while cornering.

What he said.
 
Well, I think this is a dead deal right now. I think I mentioned that my wife rides also. She was down with the idea of getting rid of both bikes and going to the CanAm. We went on a ride through one of the state forests on two wheels. When we got back as soon as she took her helmet off she said she was not ready to give up her bike. We have an oversized 3-car but two vehicles, 2 motorcycles, one scooter and a golf cart coming in the near future. I just don't have the space for the CanAm and the other items without giving up my shop space (and I like to tinker). Thanks for all of the input guys! It seems like a really friendly group of contributors here. Anyhow, we shall see what the future holds!

Yeah, you guys are to young to give up your bikes! At 76 me and 79 DW we bought an used 2018 RTL because we needed another hobby and had room in the carport to park it. Last bike was in the 1980s and a 650SR Kawasaki. Last summer up North we bought a Ford Edge ST with the twin turbo 2.7L V-6 which is a real kick to drive. So I wanted to buy a second one for down here in Arizona. With a 3500 Ram truck in the carport there was no room for a second car. And I have peripheral neuropathy in my feet, so a road bike was out. So enter from stage right, Can Am Spyder RT Limited Chrome. Our RV resort has a mix of 2 wheelers, trikes GWs, HDs and Spyders. And group rides include this mix. In the two wheeler category HD is way out front, with a few GWs and Indians. Arizona is a great place to ride, fall, Winter and Spring.

What starts on four, then two and finally three? Yep people here are at stage three!

Enjoy your bikes and rides!
 
The Spyder is a fun machine, but it will never take the place of a good handling motorcycle. If I get to the point where balance, and
heft preclude motorcycling, then a Spyder is the next best thing. It's fun, but it's not a motorcycle. Think of it as a very small
sports car that encourages you to move about while cornering.

Through the 1990's and to 2006 we rode snowmobiles all winter. The Spyder is more like a snowmobile than any other powered vehicle/machine. Steering is the same along with shifting body weight in corners. Although snowmobiles are not quite as wide up front it is still something you have to be attuned to on trails and playing in the trees!
 
I had both a spyder rt and Vstar 1300. Thought I was finished with 2 wheels and sold the Vstar. I found out I do miss the 2 wheeler. I am looking at the Honda CTX DCT abs for my 2 wheeler as I don't need to clutch it and light enough to my 70 yr old (almost 71) legs can still hold it up.
 
I had both a spyder rt and Vstar 1300. Thought I was finished with 2 wheels and sold the Vstar. I found out I do miss the 2 wheeler. I am looking at the Honda CTX DCT abs for my 2 wheeler as I don't need to clutch it and light enough to my 70 yr old (almost 71) legs can still hold it up.

FWIW, the CTX700 with DCT is an underrated gem of a bike. It's versatile as heck, feels much lighter than its 500 pounds, and is simply a LOT of fun to ride. Because it never became popular, you can often find one at a good price. Honda stopped selling them in the US in 2018.

Had mine since 2014, and don't plan to part with it despite my recent purchase of a '16 F3-S.
 
Why don't people consider Spyders as motorcycles? They are motorcycles, not bikes(meaning 2 wheels), but trikes(meaning 3 wheels) lol.
I've never had a 2 wheeler, I wanted 1 until I laid eyes on a spyder years ago. I recently purchased a 2020 RT(last month). I'm really enjoying it. I haven't put many miles on it. I'm still getting used to riding.
As many others have stated, test drive/ride both the F3 and RT if you can. There are some places that will allow you to rent them(at least that's what I heard). My first riding experience was during the 3 wheel riding course. It costs me $99. I was able to get some ride time on both the F3 and RT(granted not street riding), but you get to spend time with both(hopefully). Plus, you can get a little discount on your insurance.
As far as the geometry for you on the bike, I think the F3 has the u-fit system which allows you do some adjustments giving you options on peg and handlebar placement/position. The 2020 RT has 23 inch foot boards. I preferred the handle bars on the F3. So, I had the dealer swap them for the RT bars.

Long story short, I think if you give it a shot, you'd likely enjoy it.

You can find the 3-wheel course closest to you by using the link below:
https://can-am.brp.com/on-road/us/en/learn-to-ride.html
 
Noking1127.....My go to tire shop is an independent who does a prolific business. They had ho difficulty at all balancing the front wheels. I suggest you make inquiries as to who can do that for you.
 
Riding both

I switch back and forth between 2 and 3 wheels during the riding season. Our 2014 RTS is great and we tour on it every summer. My poor, old, slow V-Max still allows for low flight through the Sierra Nevada passes. In the winter I haveto stick with 2--- skis that is ....................

Lew L
 
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I had both a spyder rt and Vstar 1300. Thought I was finished with 2 wheels and sold the Vstar. I found out I do miss the 2 wheeler. I am looking at the Honda CTX DCT abs for my 2 wheeler as I don't need to clutch it and light enough to my 70 yr old (almost 71) legs can still hold it up.

Please, feel free to let me know if you would like any information on the CTX. My wife rides the 2015 with DCT. We have owned three Honda DCT bikes. We were unsure if we would enjoy it. Well, tens of thousands of miles and I can tell you it is the best thing that ever happened to touring & cruising motorcycles. Not that you can get it on the CTX, but there is a fourth gen of the DCT that is rider programmable, in addition to the already existing modes of D S1,2,3. I believe it is on the new Rebel 1100 and is certainly on the NC750X European iteration (likely for the USA later this year). I have no problems at all with the DCT in corners but other report that they would shift differently than the learned program. However, it can be overridden instantaneously with your left index finger or thumb...faster than you could ever shift a manual tranny. I have this 500 mile route that I ride from here to Gainesville and back on my VFR1200X DCT. The DCT makes the ride so much more enjoyable and, believe it or not, I am less fatigued. I can tell you this, the CTX is the easiest bike in the world to ride. Seat sucks but she added a Corbin. I think the suspension needs to be addressed, she disagrees, but I am 100 pounds heavier than her. Very tame and controllable machine that has been literally problem free...not one issue. However, I am a maintenance freak. Anyhow, as you can see, I can go on and on (and I haven't even finished my coffee). I am happy to help if you should have any questions. I understand this machine from top to bottom and can give you an unbiased opinion on it. Love to be able to return the graciousness that you all have shown my wife and me in our research of the CanAm.
 
Please, feel free to let me know if you would like any information on the CTX. My wife rides the 2015 with DCT. We have owned three Honda DCT bikes. We were unsure if we would enjoy it. Well, tens of thousands of miles and I can tell you it is the best thing that ever happened to touring & cruising motorcycles. Not that you can get it on the CTX, but there is a fourth gen of the DCT that is rider programmable, in addition to the already existing modes of D S1,2,3. I believe it is on the new Rebel 1100 and is certainly on the NC750X European iteration (likely for the USA later this year). I have no problems at all with the DCT in corners but other report that they would shift differently than the learned program. However, it can be overridden instantaneously with your left index finger or thumb...faster than you could ever shift a manual tranny. I have this 500 mile route that I ride from here to Gainesville and back on my VFR1200X DCT. The DCT makes the ride so much more enjoyable and, believe it or not, I am less fatigued. I can tell you this, the CTX is the easiest bike in the world to ride. Seat sucks but she added a Corbin. I think the suspension needs to be addressed, she disagrees, but I am 100 pounds heavier than her. Very tame and controllable machine that has been literally problem free...not one issue. However, I am a maintenance freak. Anyhow, as you can see, I can go on and on (and I haven't even finished my coffee). I am happy to help if you should have any questions. I understand this machine from top to bottom and can give you an unbiased opinion on it. Love to be able to return the graciousness that you all have shown my wife and me in our research of the CanAm.

Thanks for the info. I may get in contact with you via pm to start a conversation.
r/Bob
 
On a day ride with my last bike, a Victory, by mid afternoon, my clutch hand would painfully cramp. When I bought my F3L, getting the electric shift was an easy choice. I'm lovin' it!
 
Well, it may be back on the table. The wife and I went out a couple of weeks ago on our bikes. Short 120 mile trip, Sunday morning trip, 0800, Estero to right around Lake Okeechobee. If you know Florida, that is a relaxed, low traffic back road trip. I am not the exaggerating type. In that short trip we were on the shoulder twice to avoid head ons and had to critically adjust to avoid three more incidents with distracted drivers and a lefty in front of us. No exaggeration, at all...i thought we were going to bite it with one of the two head ons. She's made the decision that she is done on two wheels. She's my favorite riding partner, so I may be too. Don't get me wrong. We understand similar risks exist with three and four wheels. Anyhow...she is done with a capital D and is not the type to tell me what to do (well...you know what I mean...this woman is in a constant state of decorating...so I get told what I am going to do to help her addiction. I call her a serial decorator, death by Sherwin Williams and HomeGoods). I am selling my VFR too (and three others). CanAm is back on the table as is an NC750X, either or , not both. I do not need a touring motorcycle anymore with her out of the game. Anyhow, I may ask a few more questions of you all over the next few weeks. Thinking the whole thing through overall as we are getting back into boating just now (lost our boat to Hurricane Irma and are just now actively searching for a replacement). How i want to spend my time and money kind of thing.
 
I just went from two wheels to a 2021 Spyder RT. I hear what you are saying. My wife doesn't ride but allows me the freedom to do so. I've put 300 miles on my new RT the past week and I do feel more secure inasmuch as if I have to drop a wheel for some reason I still got two on the road. I no longer worry about my foot slipping on gravel at the stop sign or the parking lot. I don't worry as much about seeing gravel in the curve and having a low side. Of course we still observe all the same rules. I spent 30 years in EMS and been through many performance driving schools. I look at each possible infraction by other drivers as just another day of training, it was an incident that makes me better for next time. (Thank you you stupid driver kind of thing). It keeps me from getting angry at them.

As we all know from riding and driving we just sharpen our senses and try to anticipate what other drivers are going to do. Sorry to hear about your close calls, it does take out the joy for the day. Maybe there are more sedate areas to ride. I'm in KS and ride paved country roads and even the low traffic areas of our southern more interstates. Gives me a chance to practice road strategy and focus on what ifs. I could support whatever your decisions you arrive at. It has to be enjoyable.
 
I spent 30 years in EMS and been through many performance driving schools. I look at each possible infraction by other drivers as just another day of training, it was an incident that makes me better for next time.

Retired LEO here. Chicago PD.

Good points on the other elements of your response and I agree 100% that riding requires learning, skills development, training, and then skills maintenance. The problem is that we run out of options in certain conditions and are left to suffer the consequences of others' bad decisions. Completely agree with your post and nothing but the best intentions in responding.
 
Always good to hear from a LEO as you've been out there and seen what can go wrong and as you say we can run out of options and pay the price. That's the risk and all we can do is ride fully protected, stay 100% plugged into the road/conditions and leave ourselves room for options whenever possible. Guess I enjoy the focus, kinda like being on the job, but without radio, phones, etc. to distract me. Gotta love those streets and open highways. Ride safe.
 
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