Considering a Leftover ST-S: Questions

[Saluda]

:welcome:

The 2K you save on the ST-S will disappear the second you drive it off the lot.

Discontinued both on engine and model style. In a year or so, no one is going to want an ST-S when considering a Spyder purchase.

Maintenance costs are about half. Oil changes 9,500 or once a year on F3. ST-S: 4,500 intervals with recommended valve checks ($800) every 14,000 miles.

And, I would recommend a test drive on both. The seating, ride, and ergos are different on each.

Let us know what you do. :yes:

I loved my STS but above post is right on.

 

[Buckeye Bleau]

:agree:

No matter which model you buy I'd STRONGLY suggest the additional BEST 3 YR extended warranty. I wouldn't buy a Spyder without it.

If you cannot get the dealer to come down on price then you need to get him to throw in three more years of BEST warranty, personally I would start with both, the warranties really don't cost them much but they profit a ton from them.

Joe

 

[Robert Beattie]

2015 Leftover

New member here Harley owner 2009 Road Glide 62 yo dealing with cancer in remission lost 110lbs. Bought 2015 f3 base From Flatout MS in Indy for $12.499 out the door. Flew there and rode it back to New Orleans. Brand new with 2 year warranty.

 

[vondalyn]

differences between gas tank range and mpg

The maintenance intervals were what sold me on the F3, but also the gas. I ride about 15K miles per year, and the v-twins have about a 100 mile range before you need to fill up with gas and the triples have about a 200 mile range before you get gas.

Also the gas mileage. I got an avg of 30mpg with the v-twin and an average of 40mpg (39.5mpg avg in 154 fillups) with the triple. That adds up to a lot of $$.

 

[Pirate looks at --]

Test Drive Both

It really comes down to comfort. Some just don't like the seating position on the F3. It suits me just fine, and it is even more comfortable than the RT. So if you find the F3 comfortable, that would be the way to go. One thing that has not been mentioned is that the F3 will handle better IMHO, than the StS, it has an even lower center of gravity and really hugs the road. In the long run you and your Butt have to be comfortable on that motorcycle. :yes:

 

[blacklightning]

The maintenance intervals were what sold me on the F3, but also the gas. I ride about 15K miles per year, and the v-twins have about a 100 mile range before you need to fill up with gas and the triples have about a 200 mile range before you get gas.

Also the gas mileage. I got an avg of 30mpg with the v-twin and an average of 40mpg (39.5mpg avg in 154 fillups) with the triple. That adds up to a lot of $$.

I continue to hear about the poor gas milage of the V-Twin, but I got 165 miles on my 2012 RSS before the gas light came on. I think that is pretty good in any book. Normally I am around the same thing on my RT with the light comes on.
On another note, my 2014 RT generally got between 36-40 mpg from the moment that I purchased it. But now I am only getting about 33-35 mpg (this started this year). What could be causing this? I have currently 21k miles and it still runs as good or better than new. I currently do not own it any more, as I sold it last week, but I am just curious and wondered if anyone else saw a drop in mpg.

 

[Bob Denman]

"On another note, my 2014 RT generally got between 36-40 mpg from the moment that I purchased it. But now I am only getting about 33-35 mpg (this started this year). What could be causing this? I have currently 21k miles and it still runs as good or better than new. I currently do not own it any more, as I sold it last week, but I am just curious and wondered if anyone else saw a drop in mpg"

Did you put any fuel stabilizer in the tank for the Winter?
That'll do it! nojoke
It'll take a couple of tankfuls, to flush all of it out of the system. As soon as all of it is gone: your mileages will jump right back up to their prior levels. :thumbup:

 

[blacklightning]

"On another note, my 2014 RT generally got between 36-40 mpg from the moment that I purchased it. But now I am only getting about 33-35 mpg (this started this year). What could be causing this? I have currently 21k miles and it still runs as good or better than new. I currently do not own it any more, as I sold it last week, but I am just curious and wondered if anyone else saw a drop in mpg"

Did you put any fuel stabilizer in the tank for the Winter?
That'll do it! nojoke
It'll take a couple of tankfuls, to flush all of it out of the system. As soon as all of it is gone: your mileages will jump right back up to their prior levels. :thumbup:

I never put stabilizer in my bikes, because I ride all year. I do add a fuel additive on occasion, but not too often. I did notice that milage has gone up some, but not to where it was prior. I was just wondering if it was normal since I am picking up another 1330.

 

[Bob Denman]

:dontknow: Colder temperatures will require more fuel, to balance the colder, denser air...
Beyond that: tire pressures maybe? :dontknow:

 

[blacklightning]

:dontknow: Colder temperatures will require more fuel, to balance the colder, denser air...
Beyond that: tire pressures maybe? :dontknow:

:thumbup: I actually thought about that also. But with my M109, I always got 2 more mpg in colder weather. I also have used the same 92+ octane gas. I guess it is just one of those glitches. It could also be that the more comfortable I get driving a vehicle, the more agressive that I drive.

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: The "Loud Grip" probably does have the greatest impact on the pain at the pump... :roflblack:

 

[ARtraveler]

"On another note, my 2014 RT generally got between 36-40 mpg from the moment that I purchased it. But now I am only getting about 33-35 mpg (this started this year). What could be causing this? I have currently 21k miles and it still runs as good or better than new. I currently do not own it any more, as I sold it last week, but I am just curious and wondered if anyone else saw a drop in mpg"

Did you put any fuel stabilizer in the tank for the Winter?
That'll do it! nojoke
It'll take a couple of tankfuls, to flush all of it out of the system. As soon as all of it is gone: your mileages will jump right back up to their prior levels. :thumbup:

Spyders do not like winterized gas. Your gas suppliers should be getting summer blends pretty soon. You should be back up to 39-41. :yes:

 

[newbert]

ST-S vs F-3

Well, I'm taking the written test tomorrow and hope to get the permit right afterwards. (NYS requires me to go thru the whole process again even though I've had a NYS motorcycle license in the past (that has since expired.).)

That'll allow me to make an appointment for a few test drives at the local dealer. I'd like to try both the leftover '16 ST-S and a new '17 F-3 for comparison.

Can I expect the dealer to "U-Fit" me for an F-3 test drive? As I've said earlier, comfort is my #1 consideration, and the ST-S seems to be pretty comfortable for me - at least while it's not moving! Maybe (Hopefully?) the F-3 will feel even better.

Thanks!

 

[Bob Denman]

Will they move the controls around on the bike for you? :dontknow:
I suppose that it depends on how important it is for them to sell you the bike...
IMHO: it's worth insisting on it.

My dealer always has an F3 on the floor, with the U-Fit orange "Stage Props" on it. If they don't set up the bike that you'll be buying: they should at least set up one for you to give a good "Test-Sitting" to.
Good luck with the test tomorrow! :thumbup:

 

[siny10309]

My dealer has a leftover (ie - brand-new) 2016 ST-S that I'm considering making an offer on. Asking price (after instant rebate of $3500) is $17799. Although I've done research online, I'm new to Spyders so would appreciate any help with making this decision. My questions are:

1. The ST-S has the V-Twin engine which I know has been discontinued on 2017 model Spyders. The dealer says that maintenance would be "a little" more frequent on the V-Twin than on the newer engines. How does the V-Twin stack up against the newer engines with regard to reliability, etc?

2. What else should I be considering with regard to the V-Twin/ST-S vs. other models with newer engines?

3. Assuming comfort (my #1 consideration) is the same, would I be better off spending approx. $2k more on a 2017 F3?

4. Last, but not least (at least for now ), how much could I reasonably expect the price to be reduced by after negotiating?

Thanks!

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Can-Am-STS-/222479725005?hash=item33ccd331cd:g:0IMAAOSwE0JY9i1v&vxp=mtr