Concealed carry on a RT - which holster?

[bluewoo]

I have a question, and it's not about whether to carry or not to carry.

When would you actually draw your weapon? This is for those that actually carry. I was going to present different scenarios, but decided to keep the post short. If you're going to say when you feel threatened, can you be more specific?

You could go over hundreds of scenarios and each one will be different. Florida has "stand your ground" law But its never that simple as several popular cases went different directions in those rulings.
I myself cant answer that question and Im not going to try to find one being I dont think there is just one.

I just hope I never have to.

 

[UtahPete]

I have found that it is a waist of time to try to explain the value of a CCW until that person or friend of that person finds themselves desperately wishing they had one. I carry a spare tire & I can't remember the last time I needed it.

:hun: opcorn:

 

[UtahPete]

I believe a rough translation to this song is: "love faith and peace be amongst us all."

It's a great thought, but when people all over the world are trying to kill each other with trucks, knives, bombs, guns, and whatever they can get their hands on, it becomes a great wish. It has become a world wide mindset that violence is the new cure for people that don't believe the way others think they should. This new age of violence has several roots; religion, nationalities, race, class, culture, etc. We have lost our humanity.

I'm on the side of those that just want to live our lives and tolerate others. I also believe that you must be able to defend yourself and you have a right to do it. You cannot count on the authorities to always do it for you. There's an old saying I learned as a police officer, "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." I always conceal carry.

:agree: Well said

 

[Grandpot]

When to draw your gun? Too many variables.

 

[Navydad]

I have a question, and it's not about whether to carry or not to carry.

When would you actually draw your weapon? This is for those that actually carry. I was going to present different scenarios, but decided to keep the post short. If you're going to say when you feel threatened, can you be more specific?

Okay, here is my CCW adventure. There is a bicycle path along our local floodwall. This path winds around the town and sections are in a wooded area. This is a great place to ride a bicycle or to take a walk and very rarely will you go there without seeing other folks. This was on early Sunday morning and there were no other folks on the path that morning. I was walking as usual and I noticed a man keeping track of me, but also trying to remain out of my site. As I approached an isolated section he approached me and was pulling a knife from his pocket. I drew my weapon and while keeping it pointed to the ground I told him to not come any closer. He stopped and informed me wasn't afraid of my gun and I should just shoot him. That didn't sound like something a rational person would say so I told him to drop the knife and no one would get hurt today. He dropped the knife and started telling me about a woman he liked, but who wouldn't speak to him. He asked me to call her for him and at this point I knew he wasn't any where near rational in his thinking. I ask him the number and called the police instead. All of this time I had my weapon ready, but pointed at the ground and wouldn't allow him to approach me. Police came and the story was the guy had been stalking this woman and had got busted for it. He was also on medication which he frequently wouldn't take. The man never came closer after I told him to stop. The man dropped the knife when I told him to. I thank God that I never had to do more than show the firearm because taking a persons life is something you will live with for the rest of your life. Make no mistake, if he would have came at me with the knife I would have fired on him. I was lucky in that this didn't happen in a split second and I had time to think and assess the situation rather than shoot. You don't always have this luxury. The police of course interviewed me at length and explained that the guy was on meds and told me about the stalking. I told them I was thankful I did not have to shoot, but I would have if he had approached me. Officer said I would have been well within my rights to defend myself because of the knife. I have a CCW, I often carry and I hope I never have to use deadly force against another human. However I will defend myself and my family.

 

[Navydad]

In answer to the original question. I carry on my person unless I am going to an area that doesn't allow it.

 

[jaherbst]

I have a question, and it's not about whether to carry or not to carry.

When would you actually draw your weapon? This is for those that actually carry. I was going to present different scenarios, but decided to keep the post short. If you're going to say when you feel threatened, can you be more specific?

So how many of you if any have pulled your gun on someone and used it in self defense?

I have had a CCW for 39 years and only actually carried few times when carrying large amounts of cash.

Jack

 

[2dogs]

Always be aware of your surroundings at all times. Try not to place yourself (or your family) in a position where you have limited movement and cannot exit your position quickly to seek cover or concealment from a threat or danger. If at all possible be perceptive and simply exit stage left to avoid confrontation. Once you've chosen to use deadly force, you can never take it back.

 

[oldgoat]

Always be aware of your surroundings at all times. Try not to place yourself (or your family) in a position where you have limited movement and cannot exit your position quickly to seek cover or concealment from a threat or danger. If at all possible be perceptive and simply exit stage left to avoid confrontation. Once you've chosen to use deadly force, you can never take it back.

I dunno. It seems like you must have lost all enjoyment & spontaneity in your life if you have to spend it as though on an army patrol in hostile territory. So sad.

 

[2dogs]

No Mr. Goat, not sad but glad. There are sad stories everyday in every newspaper across the country were folks have willingly or unwillingly placed themselves in harms way and suffered life changing results. We all have the ability to make choices. Not all of us make them wisely sad to say. Just from your moniker I'm guessing you've done a pretty good job yourself, keep up the good work.

 

[ARtraveler]

Reminder--see post #19.

 

[WisconsinDavid]

I carry, but hope I never ever have to use the gun. I think most of us who carry are of that same mindset. Evil will always be around us. That is just the way of this world. If the situation should present itself to defend my life or others, I will be in a position that allows me to protect life. It is a big responsibility and not one to be taken lightly.

 

[Jeriatric]

Okay, here is my CCW adventure. There is a bicycle path along our local floodwall. This path winds around the town and sections are in a wooded area. This is a great place to ride a bicycle or to take a walk and very rarely will you go there without seeing other folks. This was on early Sunday morning and there were no other folks on the path that morning. I was walking as usual and I noticed a man keeping track of me, but also trying to remain out of my site. As I approached an isolated section he approached me and was pulling a knife from his pocket. I drew my weapon and while keeping it pointed to the ground I told him to not come any closer. He stopped and informed me wasn't afraid of my gun and I should just shoot him. That didn't sound like something a rational person would say so I told him to drop the knife and no one would get hurt today. He dropped the knife and started telling me about a woman he liked, but who wouldn't speak to him. He asked me to call her for him and at this point I knew he wasn't any where near rational in his thinking. I ask him the number and called the police instead. All of this time I had my weapon ready, but pointed at the ground and wouldn't allow him to approach me. Police came and the story was the guy had been stalking this woman and had got busted for it. He was also on medication which he frequently wouldn't take. The man never came closer after I told him to stop. The man dropped the knife when I told him to. I thank God that I never had to do more than show the firearm because taking a persons life is something you will live with for the rest of your life. Make no mistake, if he would have came at me with the knife I would have fired on him. I was lucky in that this didn't happen in a split second and I had time to think and assess the situation rather than shoot. You don't always have this luxury. The police of course interviewed me at length and explained that the guy was on meds and told me about the stalking. I told them I was thankful I did not have to shoot, but I would have if he had approached me. Officer said I would have been well within my rights to defend myself because of the knife. I have a CCW, I often carry and I hope I never have to use deadly force against another human. However I will defend myself and my family.

In all my years of reading these CCW posts, yours, is the first "I had to" that I recall ever reading.

Glad it all worked out!

 

[UtahPete]

No Mr. Goat, not sad but glad. There are sad stories everyday in every newspaper across the country were folks have willingly or unwillingly placed themselves in harms way and suffered life changing results. We all have the ability to make choices. Not all of us make them wisely sad to say. Just from your moniker I'm guessing you've done a pretty good job yourself, keep up the good work.

I think it's great that we can exercise our freedom of choice. I don't fault those who choose to 'carry' responsibly, concealed or otherwise (although I'd prefer it be concealed)

 

[dklehman]

My brother in law was the first person shot in the McDonalds massacre in 1983 he lived by pretending to be dead for 2 hours but it changed the way my wife has lived her entire life and my vigilance in our daily lives has allowed her to relax and enjoy doing things in public situations. Something that eluded her until about 15 years ago. So sad as it may seem to some i am always watching doors, keeping in mind ways to quickly exit a building putting myself and my family in a position that gives us a chance to react to a worst case scenario. It has gotten to point where it is not even something we think about just how we naturally do things.

 

[Jeriatric]

My brother in law was the first person shot in the McDonalds massacre in 1983 he lived by pretending to be dead for 2 hours but it changed the way my wife has lived her entire life and my vigilance in our daily lives has allowed her to relax and enjoy doing things in public situations. Something that eluded her until about 15 years ago. So sad as it may seem to some i am always watching doors, keeping in mind ways to quickly exit a building putting myself and my family in a position that gives us a chance to react to a worst case scenario. It has gotten to point where it is not even something we think about just how we naturally do things.

As it is for any combat veteran.

 

[Wildrice]

So how many of you if any have pulled your gun on someone and used it in self defense?

I have had a CCW for 39 years and only actually carried few times when carrying large amounts of cash.

Jack

Jack---I've carried that spare tire for over 50 yrs. If i needed it--it might be a life saver--depending on the area that it's needed. Remember the song from the 60's---it's a strange-strange world we live in master Jack? & it appears to be getting stranger. If one is uncomfortable carrying a firearm--Don't Carry One. But if you believe the 2nd Amendment is your right, then exercising that right is nobody's business but their own.

 

[UtahPete]

As it is for any combat veteran.

True...

 

[bluewoo]

I dunno. It seems like you must have lost all enjoyment & spontaneity in your life if you have to spend it as though on an army patrol in hostile territory. So sad.

Ask a corrections officer in a prison how they act outside of work?
My friend put in 20 years and he was changed for life "Always be aware of your surroundings at all times. Try not to place yourself (or your family) in a position where you have limited movement and cannot exit your position quickly" The prison trains you this way and he does not own a gun, But he could take me down in a sec before I knew what was happening.nojoke

 

[als]

So how many of you if any have pulled your gun on someone and used it in self defense?

I have had a CCW for 39 years and only actually carried few times when carrying large amounts of cash.

Jack

The important thing is "if you have it when you need it! Don't go looking for trouble just because you carry.
My thoughts!!