Companies dumping the NRA

[RinconRyder]

The only school solution I've heard yet that makes any sense would be to change the structure so there is only one way in or out ("hardened" as Bob says) and that is through a metal detector and past ONE armed security guard who is behind a bulletproof wall, wearing a vest and with a hotline to the SWAT team. That might not stop a crazed kid with an AR-15 but it might deter him from trying. This would be an expensive solution but I wonder if it would be any more expensive than the cost of fully implementing and enforcing gun control proposals or the loss of rights of honest, law-abiding people who make up the VAST majority of gun owners.

Your "solution" is a good one EXCEPT for its cost. Completely undoable. The cost to harden our schools would be in the many of TRILLIONS of dollars and would protect only the schools. Nightclubs, concerts and other public venues would remain unprotected.

 

[RinconRyder]

the only reason abortion was brought up is to show the the progressives double standard ,they are outraged by the shooting and someone should take away people's right to defend themselves, but it's ok the use millions of tax payer dollars to fund 1000's of killings a year because it's a persons choice and we have a legal shield because a court decided at so many weeks it's not a person yet , and inconvenient facts like more baby's of a certain minority are aborted each year than are born in New York City ,and the group we fund sells baby parts but o well those dam guns that keep jumping off the self and killing people lets go fix that

Please google "selling baby parts" and click on Snopes.com for a discussion of how this topic began.

It is safe to say babies are not being dissected for research.

 

[RinconRyder]

there are already private colleges with teachers that are allowed to carry it works fine no attacks no postal teachers

You forgot one critical word: 'yet'.

There are plenty of other businesses who have seen armed employees (or recent ex-employees) go "postal". It is only a matter of time before it happens in a school. And having said that I understand it actually did happen last week although no one was harmed.

 

[RinconRyder]

Planned parenthood caught on undercover videos

These appear to have been staged. Again, I refer you to Snopes.com for a complete discussion.

 

[RinconRyder]

Stop the media from publicizing the shooter's exploits all over the TV, newspapers, social media, etc. and making the shooter famous. This only creates "Charlie Copycat" wanting the same exposure. Enforce the laws already on the books. There are no quick solutions here, but these knee jerk responses and hurried proposals are not going to solve these problems. Start with the basics by bringing back discipline in the school systems and quit coddling these kids. Demand performance and compliance and make known the consequences of disobedience.
Require judges to actually penalize those found guilty instead of giving them PBJ and letting them walk. Maybe it's time we stop making excuses and start making people accountable for their actions.

The "laws on the books" do not go near far enough to prevent things like school shootings. We need laws specifically addressing mass shootings and the weapons most often used in these events.

You can argue to your hearts content about lack of discipline in our school systems but the fact remains schools are in place to educate, not enforce our penal codes. The best you can ask of a school administrator is to recommend the child gets professional help for his perceived illness and if that fails, expel him or her so he/she doesn't poison the well for other students. That, in effect, is what is already being done.

 

[RinconRyder]

Interesting isn't the ACA forcing me to pay for your doctor buy fining me for not having insurance , insurance with costs for things I don't need like maternity and birth control as well as abortion coverage all of which I'll never need as a older male

In fact, there are already insurance policies which do have optional exclusions for things like maternity, birth control and certain elective surgery procedures. Don't want to pay for the policy that automatically covers those? Simple, find a policy that doesn't.

But recognize that an insurance pool is viable only if it contains more people that do not take benefits than do. In other words, if the risk of providing certain benefits is too great the pool will collapse by paying out more in benefits than it takes in. Generally speaking, the more enrollees you have in any plan the lower the premiums for everyone.

 

[RinconRyder]

100% agree the gun control crowd is right there fanning the flames marching these kids all over the country booking them on tv shows and not letting the ones talk that aren't going to say what the handlers want to hear

And if the media weren't publicizing the story you would be criticizing them for not doing so.

There is a very fine line between reporting a story and publicizing an event for personal gain.

 

[RinconRyder]

Gee... He replied to the other posts: I hate to miss out on all of the fun!:roflblack:

I made my point. It needs no further explanation.

 

[RinconRyder]

I have a Liberal friend who owns a restaurant and I comply with his "no guns" sign.

I take my gun ,wallet and family elsewhere! It makes him so angry, I just laugh at him. He lost at least 30 regular customers that I know of. Business is down.:clap:

I don't patronize any of the kill for free zones.

It must really suck to be you. Afraid of not going out in public without your firearm. You would think from your explanation you lived in Botswana or some other third world country. Wait......perhaps you are correct and NC is already a third world country. That is sure what it sounds like.

My ex-father in law lived in VA and never went for a bike ride without his handgun strapped to his handlebars. It must really suck to live in such a place. I'm sure glad I don't.

 

[Bob Denman]

The point that you made; is that you aren't particularly truthful...:lecturef_smilie:

 

[RinconRyder]

yes and that worked out well my insurance went from 900 month for 2 with 500 ded. To a bargain of 1400 and 7500 each ded so only 30,000 per year before I collect the first dime ,the young and poor were better off paying the fine and they still walked into the ER and got care the hospitals had to loose out on
so much for the pool therory

the state of oregon paid 500,000 to build ACA website sign up page that never signed up 1 person

less government please

By your writing it is easy to see where our gubmint failed you. Please learn to write before posting!

But then, it must be hell to be a radical right winger living in a place like OR. Total frustration.

 

[r1100rider]

And if the media weren't publicizing the story you would be criticizing them for not doing so.

There is a very fine line between reporting a story and publicizing an event for personal gain.

Not so I agree with not giving these nuts air time I wouldn't criticize for that

 

[UtahPete]

In fact, there are already insurance policies which do have optional exclusions for things like maternity, birth control and certain elective surgery procedures. Don't want to pay for the policy that automatically covers those? Simple, find a policy that doesn't.

But recognize that an insurance pool is viable only if it contains more people that do not take benefits than do. In other words, if the risk of providing certain benefits is too great the pool will collapse by paying out more in benefits than it takes in. Generally speaking, the more enrollees you have in any plan the lower the premiums for everyone.

Your posts are logical and reasoned and fact-based. His are just a regurgitation of NRA dogma. Reason will never win over emotion unfortunately, and that's what is wrong with our whole country right now. The inmates think they're running the asylum.

 

[r1100rider]

By your writing it is easy to see where our gubmint failed you. Please learn to write before posting!

But then, it must be hell to be a radical right winger living in a place like OR. Total frustration.

Not so life is good I was just showing the facts of what happens when the government "fixes something " insurance become un affordable it has nothing to do with right or left just what happened insults dont change reality,I'm not frustrated with life at all I just open my eyes to what's going on

 

[UtahPete]

Not so life is good I was just showing the facts of what happens when the government "fixes something " insurance become un affordable it has nothing to do with right or left just what happened insults dont change reality,I'm not frustrated with life at all I just open my eyes to what's going on

Somebody failed you big time.

 

[r1100rider]

In fact, there are already insurance policies which do have optional exclusions for things like maternity, birth control and certain elective surgery procedures. Don't want to pay for the policy that automatically covers those? Simple, find a policy that doesn't.

But recognize that an insurance pool is viable only if it contains more people that do not take benefits than do. In other words, if the risk of providing certain benefits is too great the pool will collapse by paying out more in benefits than it takes in. Generally speaking, the more enrollees you have in any plan the lower the premiums for everyone.

That would be nice but the ACA put all the competition in insurance out of business and left us with 2 choices ,the exclusions you mention are not true they are required parts to qualify as per ACA rules

 

[r1100rider]

Somebody failed you big time.

More insults ?

 

[JerryB]

Hi RinconRyder,

Re: click on Snopes.com for a discussion

You ask too much of the old dinosaurs on here.

I agree with every post you have written on many subjects. It is too bad that too many people have failed to keep up with the changing world.

Jerry Baumchen

PS) I've been pro-abortion upon demand ever since I first learned was it was; about 1957 or so.

 

[ES44AC]

It must really suck to be you. Afraid of not going out in public without your firearm. You would think from your explanation you lived in Botswana or some other third world country. Wait......perhaps you are correct and NC is already a third world country. That is sure what it sounds like.

My ex-father in law lived in VA and never went for a bike ride without his handgun strapped to his handlebars. It must really suck to live in such a place. I'm sure glad I don't.

I'm glad you don't live here too.

 

[vided]

A trifecta of smug elitist bs.
How quaint