Companies dumping the NRA

[Holly]

CORRECTION: People with guns kill people!

And yes, if you are truly a bad guy you can find a gun somewhere BUT you should know that not one of the school shooters nor the LV shooter had police records. Not one of them. So, they weren't the "bad guy" until they pulled the trigger and mowed down a lot of innocent people.

The companies dropping their NRA bennies are retreating from a brand fiasco. They don't want to be on the wrong (read: losing) side of this issue. See my earlier post for a more complete description of why they are doing this. It has to do with business and not politics or gun control per se.

And yes, your Flori-duh authorities at multiple levels completely dropped the ball on this and should be held accountable. That would be in my list of things to look at but only after we remove as many of the weapons as possible.

With your logic I hope you are calling for boycotting AAA and company's that give discounts to their members until we get these killing vehicle's off the road.


The last time I checked, cars and motorcycles kill 10's of thousands more people per year than guns. Or does this not fit the left narrative because you own one ?


BOYCOTT AAA NOW ! opcorn:

 

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

With your left leaning logic I hope you are calling for boycotting AAA and company's that give discounts to their members until we get these killing vehicle's off the road.


The last time I checked, cars and motorcycles kill 10's of thousands more people per year than guns. Or does this not fit the left narrative because you own one ?


BOYCOTT AAA NOW ! opcorn:

How about better testing to get a license and annual testing and no legal status no license.

 

[loisk]

So much to say ...
Please don't get bogged down in political party sledging - it is merely avoiding a reasoned debate - our country is not so sidetracked by political party allegiances - we certainly do not pre-register for one party or another, we vote how we feel at the time.

I am not suggesting the Australian model for America, our cultures are too different. I would fight tooth and nail against your model here.

By the way, whatever happened to the policeman who perceived an Aussie lady, who had reported a disturbance, as a threat when she came out in her pyjamas to talk to the policemen in their car? Shot dead. As I said, totally different cultures.

All I will add is that it seems highly illogical that an 18 year old can buy a gun but cannot buy a beer. Something wonky there. Either an 18 year old is a responsible adult, or they are not. Sounds like a bob each way...

 

[wyliec]

With your logic I hope you are calling for boycotting AAA and company's that give discounts to their members until we get these killing vehicle's off the road.


The last time I checked, cars and motorcycles kill 10's of thousands more people per year than guns. Or does this not fit the left narrative because you own one ?


BOYCOTT AAA NOW ! opcorn:

I say get yourself a sign and stand out in front of AAA and boycott them, if you feel that strongly; it's your right to free speech.

 

[johnsimion]

My answer to what a liberal is.
Someone who proclames that they are very understanding and open and yet will not listen to any apposing ideas or views.
Someone who thinks that they or the government can tell me a better way I have to live my life and it HAS align with how they live theirs.
Someone who thinks that the everyone MUST agree with their ideas and have no personal freedoms, successes, or failures.
Someone who wants to take away from me what I have earned through hard work, and share it with whomever they think should have it, not giving me the opportunity to support the causes and people I would like to support. Therefore keeping thinks like Amtrak, and National Public radio afloat when they to not appeal to enough people in the market place to become successful on their own.
Someone who gives very little of their own increase to charity to help others, and yet wants to take my earnings and give it to the things they prefer, IE illegal aliens.

Reading these ridiculous generalizations, here's an easy definition of a "conservative" -- A person who jumps to conclusions, generalizes everything and stereotypes other people.

 

[Bob Denman]

With your logic I hope you are calling for boycotting AAA and company's that give discounts to their members until we get these killing vehicle's off the road.


The last time I checked, cars and motorcycles kill 10's of thousands more people per year than guns. Or does this not fit the left narrative because you own one ?


BOYCOTT AAA NOW ! opcorn:

Holly!!!
Welcome back! We've missed you!! :yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

 

[UtahPete]

Holly!!!
Welcome back! We've missed you!! :yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

That's an avatar, Bob. Don't get so excited!

 

[johnsimion]

From BBC News
All shootings: Some 13,286 people were killed in the US by firearms in 2015, according to the Gun Violence Archive, and 26,819 people were injured [those figures exclude suicide]. Those figures are likely to rise by several hundred, once incidents in the final week of the year are counted.

From UPI
ATLANTA, Dec. 23 (UPI) -- Several recent studies have shown epidemic use of prescription opioids and heroin, but new data show Americans are drinking themselves to death in record numbers.
More than 30,700 people died from alcohol poisoning and cirrhosis of the liver last year, and when factoring in deaths from alcohol-related DUI the total number of alcohol-related deaths rises to more than 88,000, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

6.6 times the the number of deaths caused by something that is available in almost every convenience store, left unattended and readily available in almost every home, and could be totally preventable.
I say we confiscate it all and then sort it out and only give it back to the people who prove they can handle it and drink responsibly.
I don't want to out law it all, just get rid of any of the LARGE containers, because no one needs that much ant any one time, the only thing it could be used for is to get drunk. We could limit it to just what could be drank at any one time without it getting you drunk.
Then we need to make sure that we limit the high alcoholic content products, those also are not needed by the average person and are just used to get you drunk making it easier for you to die or have an accident killing others.
We then need to make sure that NO ONE has more than a limited supply in their homes, if they have more it should be confiscate destroyed, and the offender should be arrested.

That is just applying the same rules to alcohol, a greater killer than guns will ever be, that most liberals want to apply to guns.

Sounds pretty absurd when you apply those same rules to something that is not a constitutional right, and yet the constitutional right is under fire.

It's a fallacious argument because the people who died from alcohol poisoning and cirrhosis of the liver did it to themselves by intentionally ingesting alcohol, whereas gun deaths are almost always either an unintentional accident by the owner of the gun or the result of someone deliberately pulling the trigger to harm someone else. The only gun deaths that would be comparable would be suicide by gun.

 

[Bob Denman]

Labels have only one purpose, and that is to divide us. That's the problem I have with most of the extremist arguments, is that they depend on the followers having a complete revulsion to anything labeled 'liberal', "democrat" or 'socialist'. Most middle-class folks I know, once you get past the labels and start talking about specific concerns, don't fall neatly into any grouping.

:roflblack: I should have used the "sarcasm font"... :roflblack:
Joking... :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

That's an avatar, Bob. Don't get so excited!

She's an old friend (Not age-wise), that I've known for years... :2thumbs:

 

[UtahPete]

She's an old friend (Not age-wise), that I've known for years... :2thumbs:

Just having a little fun with you, Bob.

 

[Holly]

Holly!!!
Welcome back! We've missed you!! :yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

Hey Bob !!!!!!


How did you like my AAA analogy ? That will send those anti gun lefties over the edge ! :roflblack:

 

[Bob Denman]

It fit right in... :thumbup:
But it probably won't change any minds... :banghead:

What have you been up to? You and Randy just kind of... disappeared! :shocked:

 

[Fatcycledaddy]

It's a fallacious argument because the people who died from alcohol poisoning and cirrhosis of the liver did it to themselves by intentionally ingesting alcohol, whereas gun deaths are almost always either an unintentional accident by the owner of the gun or the result of someone deliberately pulling the trigger to harm someone else. The only gun deaths that would be comparable would be suicide by gun.

But the people killed by the drunk drivers, doctors, pilots, or any other of the thousands of intoxicated people didn't. That's why the numbers I used had suicides removed from them.

 

[UtahPete]

Hey Bob !!!!!! How did you like my AAA analogy ? That will send those anti gun lefties over the edge ! :roflblack:
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Dream on, Holly! Dream on.

 

[Fatcycledaddy]

With your logic I hope you are calling for boycotting AAA and company's that give discounts to their members until we get these killing vehicle's off the road.


The last time I checked, cars and motorcycles kill 10's of thousands more people per year than guns. Or does this not fit the left narrative because you own one ?


BOYCOTT AAA NOW ! opcorn:

No the motorcycle argument would work also, I just used something b that is more common to the general public than a motorcycle.
The point being we do not need a few mandating what a law abiding citizen can and cannot own. You can let your opinion of a company or organization by either boycotting or supporting it.
I choose to support the NRA and those company's who support it. I choose not to support those who do not. I will not try to mandate what others do.

 

[UtahPete]

No the motorcycle argument would work also, I just used something b that is more common to the general public than a motorcycle.
The point being we do not need a few mandating what a law abiding citizen can and cannot own. You can let your opinion of a company or organization by either boycotting or supporting it. I choose to support the NRA and those company's who support it. I choose not to support those who do not. I will not try to mandate what others do.

I think the vast majority of Americans, regardless of party affiliation, would agree with that.

 

[RinconRyder]

With your logic I hope you are calling for boycotting AAA and company's that give discounts to their members until we get these killing vehicle's off the road.


The last time I checked, cars and motorcycles kill 10's of thousands more people per year than guns. Or does this not fit the left narrative because you own one ?

Tired old rose food.....and brainless to boot.

Unless you are talking about tanks vehicles are not manufactured as deadly weapons. They can certainly be misused as such but that is not a valid argument. Their value as transportation galactically exceeds their use as weapons. And for that matter your Spyder could probably off a nun and two orphans if you tried very hard.

 

[ThreeWheels]

How is this thread doing ?
It seems I've put most of you on ignore previously, I'm only able to read what Bob Denman is saying.

 

[r1100rider]

The most recent one? Las Vegas

not so the concert venue and the Mandely bay were both gun free areas