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Class Action Lawsuit
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Bob Denman
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Dave,
I'd like to hope that it could be done; but the new front end and plumbing was designed with the 1330 in mind. The Twins might pose too many problems with parts interference... :shocked: :gaah:
cuznjohn
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cooling
they would have to re work the whole front end of our bikes and it would never be cost effective for them to do it. i wish i knew more about motors to try and come up with ideas. i really don't see how tuning will help
they would have to re work the whole front end of our bikes and it would never be cost effective for them to do it. i wish i knew more about motors to try and come up with ideas. i really don't see how tuning will help
Bob Denman
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John, I think that Dave is trying to address the issue of heat preception by the rider with this suggestion. Moving the radiators up front would take heat off the rider, but I'm not sure about the heat under the Bodywork... :dontknow:
DAVE; what's your logic??
DAVE; what's your logic??
Magdave
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John, I think that Dave is trying to address the issue of heat preception by the rider with this suggestion. Moving the radiators up front would take heat off the rider, but I'm not sure about the heat under the Bodywork... :dontknow:
DAVE; what's your logic??
You hit part of it. On the 2013 the new swoop is one piece no bottom plate so it injects heat into the engine cavity as well since it has no insulation and doing the block off can't be done not without butchering the plastic. Getting any source of heat farther away from the engine bay has to be a good thing. The swoop change was due to the new 2014 suspension in the front. I don't know about the oil cooler or air intake on the 14 vs 13 just thinking out loud. I know the frame could take it I saw unused bolt clips on it when it was naked I assume those were 2014 pre ready.:thumbup: It could be a pricey solution for BRP though.
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ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
IMO: You are right on the money here. BRP needs to find the WHY some units are fine, and why other units run hot as heck. Suspicious to me would be some part that was changed due to suppliers, specs, or containing defects part way through the year.
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jonnysevel
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I have no issues with the bike but the value has plummeted because of all of the issues the 13's are having. Luckily I don't have an issue but I have been damaged financially
NancysToy
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In reality, anyone who has not actually sold or traded has not suffered any financial loss. It's like the stock market, it is only the potential or perceived value that has diminished. In the real world you lost your money when you paid for the Spyder...or the stock.
Bob Denman
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That's true... but it doesn't actually make anybody feel any better... :shocked:
NancysToy
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:agree: Just trying to set the record straight...in legal terms.
Magdave
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bullant12
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Too early to tell. We are not even certain if the '14s are going to be flawless. The '13s came out as the loudest bang and eventually took it's toll. The same with previous years. Cars and houses have the same problem. The only thing that can fix it is time.
If you go to a lawyer for a class action suit, they are either going to :roflblack: or just take the money. Scotty said it best: Lose your money to the marketplace or lose it to the lawyers.
Ivorspyder
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:agree:That's exactly right Scotty.In reality, anyone who has not actually sold or traded has not suffered any financial loss. It's like the stock market, it is only the potential or perceived value that has diminished. In the real world you lost your money when you paid for the Spyder...or the stock.
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I wonder if a collective claim under small claims court couldn't be filed.
I guess this is all different in each state.
Here in Quebec, a small claim up to $ 5000.00 can be filed, and an attorney is not required, these amounts and rules may have changed since the last time.
Dom
In reality, anyone who has not actually sold or traded has not suffered any financial loss. It's like the stock market, it is only the potential or perceived value that has diminished. In the real world you lost your money when you paid for the Spyder...or the stock.
Actually the loss can only occur upon the sale of the trike, thus the difference between purchase price and actual sales price.
You can have an anticipated loss based on present selling price, but not actual until you sell it.
Dom
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I wont tell you how to fix bikes if y'all don't tell aggrieved buyers whether they have a legal claim. You go see a lawyer if you want to---its not your problem to put together the 20 people needed for a class action. If such a suit can be filed it is one of the few ways BRP could be compelled to take corrective action. Those of you waiting for BRP to create a fix without the government telling them they have to are quite simply delusional. For those who don't like lawyers or litigation, consider filing a complaint with the NTSB---they have the power to order a recall.
I wont tell you how to fix bikes if y'all don't tell aggrieved buyers whether they have a legal claim. You go see a lawyer if you want to---its not your problem to put together the 20 people needed for a class action. If such a suit can be filed it is one of the few ways BRP could be compelled to take corrective action. Those of you waiting for BRP to create a fix without the government telling them they have to are quite simply delusional. For those who don't like lawyers or litigation, consider filing a complaint with the NTSB---they have the power to order a recall.
Flash Gordon
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Loss in trade in value of a 2013
I would like to see BRP come up with a way to allow a decent trade in value for those with 2013's wanting to trade in for a 2014. This would not be very expensive for them, and would give a lot of unhappy owners a way out of their problems.
I would like to see BRP come up with a way to allow a decent trade in value for those with 2013's wanting to trade in for a 2014. This would not be very expensive for them, and would give a lot of unhappy owners a way out of their problems.
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