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CBC News - Winnipeg man parks 3 wheeled motor bike...

Flanker said:
Good choice in rides! Though I'm biased..........................;)
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Same Here, good idea on the ryde. Sounds to me like there is going to be another manufacturer rntering the game and maybe they need for BRP to have some bad press???? I know it sounds steep, but I bet I could get a news crew on it if I had a video of a businessman with his hair on fire, punching himself in the head in a vain attempt to put out the flames.

Just sayin'............
 
You know what? Count me in the happy camp.

Every. Single. Day. on this forum we're reading owner complaints about the Spyder. While we can take some of them with a grain of salt-- and be happy for those, like me, who have never had a complaint to speak of-- there are obviously issues with the Spyder. Minor ones, mostly, but some that may, MAY, be major. Like, fire-producing major.

So, what do you think is going to get BRP to take action? Gripes on an online forum? Or old-fashioned muckraking press?

Sensationalist it may be-- what "journalism" isn't these days?-- I guarantee that stuff like this gets more attention from BRP than most anything we have ever written here. *No* company can afford bad media like this, nor will they if they can take steps to avoid it in the future.

I love my Spyder. But I want *everyone* to love their Spyder like I do. Seems to me that can only be accomplished when BRP takes the most serious complaints seriously.
 
i have encountered two problems that have not been recalled and i have documented them on this forum .one involved a fuel leak and the other was the total failure of the PLASTIC gears that power our oil pumps .only 7400 km on the bike .i really like the spyder but BRP is really dropping the ball here .and why dont we get recall notices in the mail ? that is what car manufacturers are required to do .i give my VIN # to the dealer and he runs it and all he ever says is no outstanding recalls .the brake pedal one worries me because i was never near a dealer when that was issued .i have owned a new suzuki bike , 4 honda bikes , a honda outboard and 2 suzuki outboards and they never saw the dealer after i took possession .people expect the odd recall but the quality level is just not there .the phantom CEL's , bad oil pressure senders etc just dont happen on modern japanese bikes .yes , this CBC article is geared toward sensationalism but these problems are on going things .spyder sales , according to the dealer i got mine from , have doubled every year since the intro .this bike is a smart idea , but if quality does not improve , this bike will become just another interesting failure .if honda , yamaha , suzuki or kawasaki build a version of the spyder , BRP will be out of the road bike business .
 
NancysToy said:
The only real word I can think of to describe it is "irresponsible!" Summing up unrelated recalls, of which only a portion actually apply to the owner's Spyder, smelling fuel fumes with your nose a few inches from the atmospheric vent, brake failures that were unexplained and could readily have been for low fluid and the owner's failure to check it properly. Buyer's remorse at its worst...and journalism that manufatures its own news. It is a sad, sad world we live in!
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You make good points, as usual Scotty, BUT the demo Spyder fire was real enough and it bothers me some, (I meant the Spyder was demo, not the fire)!

For BRP to say the cause of the fire is unknown and is under investigation while at the same time insisting that Spyders are safe to ride sounds like complacency. Not until the fire has been forensically investigated and the cause determined will they be in a position to claim Spyders are "safe".

That demo trike had just been ridden according to the report I saw earlier and was awaiting another rider. Imagine if that trike had been sold, ridden and parked up in the new owner's garage, the consequences of a fire like that could be tragic. As you know, even with a fire extinguisher on hand it is nigh on impossible to get to the seat of the flames, there is too much bolted-on tupperware to get in the way. As the video shows, it's a highly combustible machine.

Following this I now leave my RT outside until it has cooled down and only later do I push it into the garage. I've reached an age where I no longer believe that bad stuff only happens to other people. That's why. :sour:
 
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GeoffCee said:
You make good points, as usual Scotty, BUT the demo Spyder fire was real enough and it bothers me some, (I meant the Spyder was demo, not the fire)!

For BRP to say the cause of the fire is unknown and is under investigation while at the same time insisting that Spyders are safe to ride sounds like complacency. Not until the fire has been forensically investigated and the cause determined will they be in a position to claim Spyders are "safe".

That demo trike had just been ridden according to the report I saw earlier and was awaiting another rider. Imagine if that trike had been sold, ridden and parked up in the new owner's garage, the consequences of a fire like that could be tragic. As you know, even with a fire extinguisher on hand it is nigh on impossible to get to the seat of the flames, there is too much bolted-on tupperware to get in the way. As the video shows, it's a highly combustible machine.

Following this I now leave my RT outside until it has cooled down and only later do I push it into the garage. I've reached an age where I no longer believe that bad stuff only happens to other people. That's why. :sour:
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I'm not downplaying the fires or the DPS failures in the least...I am just protesting the sensationalism with which they were reported. The owner in question did not report having many of the problems used as ammunition in the feature. It was a stretch, and it was probably not convincing to a person of moderate intelligence. They would have done better to forget the disgruntled owner and concentrate on the fire story...and maybe even the incidence of recalls if they really felt strongly about them...although only a couple were actually widespread.
 
NancysToy said:
I am just protesting the sensationalism with which they were reported.
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It seems that sensationalism and journalism in these modern times go hand in hand but it's far from being a new phenomenon. We once got chatting to a photo-journalist for a couple of hours in a pub. It was a long time back, maybe in the 60's. Neither of us can remember his name, but we clearly remember him saying that he kept a partly burned teddy bear in his car together with a couple of children's shoes of different sizes. If he was reporting on a fatal house fire involving children he would place the blackened bear in the garden of the house before taking its photo. A road accident involving a child would show where it had happened and he included a child's shoe in the foreground of the shot.

We thought he was adding to the pain and misery of the people involved but he brushed our misgivings aside, the human angle was what his editor wanted and a couple of simple props kept him employed.

There is plenty of sadness in a photo of a burned out Spyder without the need to add props to it. :(
 
Bob Denman said:
"'Nuther" hint:
"I can't even turn it."
And look for the signature farkle... :shocked:
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Yes I know who your talking about as when I was researching spyder before I bought, I saw that youtube video.
It's Lamonster's video showing his spyder would turn easy on cement but not asphalt! That's a really old video from like 2009 as I recall.

Bob
 
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