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Can I Really Afford a Spyder?

The dealer we go to charges $80 an hour to work on motorcycles, the Spyder included. The 600 mile service on my bike, plus installation of the back rest came out to a bit over $400. I was a little bit shocked by that to say the least, but you have to pay if you are going to play.

I am now going to start doing my own oil changes once I read the information provided on this site. :D

I think my dealer is $89 an hour-- and I'm not sure if they are charging 'real' hours or 'by the book' hours. BRP has a set time that each procedure *should* take.

Some things they have seen to be pretty quick on--- others---- like changing my rear tire---- were just crazy expensive--- live and learn-- I should have asked before having it changed. They charged me $205.00 to change the rear tire--- and that doesn't include the tire.

After talking to many people---- found out that they paid 1/2 that for the same service.... so I think my dealer charged my 'real' time-- and since they had never done one before--- and had to have the tire changed on the rim at a tire place just down the road... it was expensive. Will do the next one myself.
 
I know for the back rest they said the book time was 2 hours, and I am pretty sure that is what I was charged for that portion of the work.
 
I said the FIRST service should be figured in the price not ALLL the services. I bought three Harleys in twelve years, never paid for the first service. While I am smart enough to know that that service was probably figured into the price of the vehicle the dealers were smart enough to know that this service is THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE and that "giving it" to people meant they would bring it to the dealership instead of doing it themselves and would result in fewer problems down the road for both the dealers AND the owners. In addition instead of taking a check from me for 15000 bucks then telling me “see you in 3 days to get another 300 from you” they could say “see you in three days! Well check it all over and change the fluids for you for free!” well, that leaves a much better taste in ones mouth now doesn’t it. I researched the spyder before buying, I knew this and thin dealership location was going to be an issue for me, but this man asked the question whether he could afford to own one and to say "You only live once" is not, IMHO, the answer he is looking for. IF BRP's objective is to keep the spyder as a niche market for a wealthy few who don’t care and can afford to pay any amount to have their spyders serviced once a year they may be well on their way to doing that. THIS is the only thing so far I can say that is bad about spyder ownership. I don’t have sour grapes. I'm not throwing rocks. It is true that what many read here are only complaints and problems but that’s mostly why people check in here. My hope is that BRP pays attention to what is being said here (and it is clear they do). The spyder has great potential that is again IMHO only being limited by these issues. To ignore them and not try to improve on them is bad business and will only serve to turn our spyders into relics of what could have been. I have no regrets about buying the spyder, it is a great piece of technology and is huge fun to ride and very "useable". I’ve put 3000 miles on it in two months because I drive it EVERY day. Rain, shine, wind, heat and now cold, but I think ill pass on snow LOL. In short I LOVE driving it, but as a guy who lives on a realistic budget it may eventually see more time in the garage than Id like if I can’t afford to have it serviced. Also IMHO if the spyder gets a reputation as unreliable (which I don’t believe it is I’m just sayin) and expensive, sales will struggle terribly, especially in the market we are currently in, which will only make it more difficult to get service and parts for OUR spyders. The spyder IS a bargain compared to a Harley trike and a goldwing trike, but for a guy who could have easily bought, and was actually looking to buy a two wheeler when I first saw the spyder, Ill tell you those comparisons are a moot point. If we want more dealerships and lower prices etc SALES is the only thing that will eventually create the capable, qualified, lower cost, service and close knit dealerships we alllllllll want so badly. To say all is wine and roses with spyder ownership will only make people that much angrier when they find out the truth the hard way that ownership has a cost that has to be weighed in an honest way.
 
I feel those are very valid statements as well jabba11. In fact, the dealer I was at today said something about not being sure they would be able to keep carrying the Spyder's in their inventory. That is a little disconcerting to me, and I hope they will not lose the ability to service what has already been sold.
 
I think my dealer is $89 an hour-- and I'm not sure if they are charging 'real' hours or 'by the book' hours. BRP has a set time that each procedure *should* take.

Some things they have seen to be pretty quick on--- others---- like changing my rear tire---- were just crazy expensive--- live and learn-- I should have asked before having it changed. They charged me $205.00 to change the rear tire--- and that doesn't include the tire.

After talking to many people---- found out that they paid 1/2 that for the same service.... so I think my dealer charged my 'real' time-- and since they had never done one before--- and had to have the tire changed on the rim at a tire place just down the road... it was expensive. Will do the next one myself.
This is the exact reason I have such a beef with these freakin dealers .... they rob you coming and going whichever suits them the best. They should either stick to one method or the other. It would be the fairest to charge by book time. Any longer its their own mech's incompetency. Charging by real time when it takes longer is just plain bs. Tis the reason why I olny goes to them when absolutely necessary and not a minute sooner.
 
Hence why I said 'comparable'.

Maybe they can get cheaper service on an HD trike--- but they'll also pay $36,000 for it.....

The new streetglide trike cost pretty much the same as the premium RT.

But I think in this economy you're not gonna see many people trading in stuff to take a hit and then tack that onto a new vehicle loan. At least I wouldn't although my eyes light up every time I see something new being produced.
 
I appreciate everyones imput. Tom in NM I presented the questions not fo have others determine for me if I can really afford a Spyder but to get input on what you are having to pay to keep it on the road. I knew when I asked my questions that it is going to cost more than my FJR has but I wanted to find out what others have experienced in owning one.

After reading the forum I was fully aware of the increased cost of owning one. What I am learning here is that most of you find it is worth the additional cost of owning a Spyder. I must admit when I read that the 12k service can cost $1k+ and changing a rear tire can cost $200 in labor plus the cost of the tire does cause me some concern. I am sure that is not true of all dealers. This has helped me learn what questions I need to ask a dealer before making a deal. My closest dealer is 50 miles away and the next closest is about 100 miles away. That is a long way to go to get work done when I need it.

If anyone reading this has dealt with Duval in Shawnee, OK I would appreciate hearing about their experiences with them. If it is really bad and you do not want ot badmouth a dealer on the forum you could PM me. I know there are a lot of bad M/C dealers out there that have mechanics who are not really proficient and many of the dealers are referred to as "Stealers". With limited access for dealers it would be nice knowing a dealers reputation before making a purchase.

Again, thanks to everyone for their input.
 
Youre not too far from me..hope to se you out there!!! Try to remember if you havent ridden one that it is a diferent exprienece than riding a bike, it takes some getting used to but boy howdy it is fun for sure. I drove home from work last night at midnight..36 degrees... big cheesy grin all the way home:clap:
 
Youre not too far from me..hope to se you out there!!! Try to remember if you havent ridden one that it is a diferent exprienece than riding a bike, it takes some getting used to but boy howdy it is fun for sure. I drove home from work last night at midnight..36 degrees... big cheesy grin all the way home:clap:

I rode a preproduction model in Longmont, CO in July 07 and really liked it. I only got to ride it about 8-10 miles but I was impressed. Would not buy one back then because the closest dealer that first year was in Dallas/Fort Worth area. That was just too far for a vehicle that was unproven at that time. jabba11 you obviously are somewhere north of me either in KS or NW OK I would guess. I will keep riding my FJR if I do not sell it.
 
ne of you in manhattan KS BUT i go through okc often as I go to wichita falls often and dallas as well

Sometime when you are passing through you can PM me and maybe we can meet up. You must have relatives in TX. I live right off I 35 in Edmond.
John
 
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