Can am Spyder RS handbrake

[Bob Denman]

My VTX 1800 Also had linked brakes, When you hit the front brake it would also apply the rear brake ,But with reduced pressure.

...1983 GoldWing... Linked braking system, and it might have been the first practical application of it...:thumbup:
Hit the pedal and you got the rear brakes plus ONE caliper up front.
You'd grab the lever to add the 2nd caliper to the situation. :2thumbs:

It also had a built-in anti-dive setup for the front as well...

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

THIS BRAKING PROBLEM ?????

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[pathfinderjoe]

cost of doing business

If you think the price is to high just think about the costs for liability insurance. When you are in business you know you will be sued sooner than later. Part of the costs of products is attributed to cover current and future legal fees.
I have had an ISCI hand brake on my 08 GS/M5 for years and love.

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: ISCI's setup is the hot ticket! :thumbup:
I only mentioned my 'Wing, because the idea of linking things up goes back 30 years or more...

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

YOUR FOLLOW-UP POST

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[NancysToy]

:agree: ISCI's setup is the hot ticket! :thumbup:
I only mentioned my 'Wing, because the idea of linking things up goes back 30 years or more...

The concept of linked brakes grew because riders often don't apply separate front and rear brakes safely, effectively, or wisely sometimes. The linked brakes (and later adjustable logic) increased braking system effectiveness overall, by taking the operator out of the equation to a large extent. The Spyder does not have separate front and rear brakes, so it does not need to have a linked system (or a hand brake to operate part of it). The VCM deals with which brake needs what pressure, combining ABS capability with directional braking assistance when the need arises. A hand brake can be useful (or necessary) to a rider who has accessories that remove his or her foot from close proximity to the foot brake, or for those who have physical limitations. For the average rider, however, especially a novice, they are a distraction and could even be considered a liability. I don't see any need for them to be standard equipment, but I am glad ISCI has seen fit to fill the void safely and effectively for those that desire or need one.

 

[Bob Denman]

Scotty,
:shocked: that really started sounding like Math again... :roflblack:

I am also getting closer to that time in my life, where I'll need that lever up on top... :yikes:
So I'm REAL thankful that ISCI has my back... :thumbup:

 

[bscrive]

I looked at the ISCI setup and it is a great design and well thought out. That being said, I don't think the product is worth what they are selling it for. I can see that the limited market is a reason for the price but I calculated the parts to build the device at around $200 and not having $1250 to spend on something like this, I will have to come up with something else. I know they use a proprietary slave cylinder but after talking it over with some people who know a thing or two about hydraulics. We concluded that you could use a clutch slave cylinder instead as well as a hand brake with a master for dual callipers. The design ISCI uses is really good but it can be improved on. This will definitely be a project worth looking into. Don't worry, I don't intend on selling anything, this is for my own personal satisfaction. I love a challenge like this.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

OUT OF THE BOXER ?????

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[mcpjan]

Safety First

I for one want to known my brakes are going to work. I have ISCI Handbrake on order for my bike. I have seen them in person and talked to people that use them. I want to know that I am installing (actually having a mechanic) the safest items. I don't want to mess around with brakes. I just want to have fun when I am riding and not have to worry if my brakes are going to work.

 

[Pogo]

DIY hand brake.

I'm a right leg amputee in Oz. The ISCI brake seemed ideal, but the cost, plus shipping and taxes when it lands made me go another route.

For several years I ran a pedal on the left side of my '08 GS SE5, linked to the standard brake with a rod across the frame. There are photos on this forum.

Describing the problem to a friend who is a retired fitter and turner, he decided to build up a hydraulic system similar in principle to the ISCI.

A Kawasaki master cylinder is on the right handlebar, a sleeved down (14 mm, I think) clutch slave cylinder is mounted behind the original brake master cylinder, and a custom clevis joins the two.

The system vaguely follow this post by NEXUS, with modifications to use a smaller diameter master cylinder.

A quick search of the forum turned up several variations on the theme.

Good luck.

Pogo.

 

[rgk]

ISCI Hand Brake

A site sponsor ISCI makes a very good handbrake. If you go to the home page there is a link to their website. Good Luck

Recently I stopped by the ISCI operation in Montgomery, AL. ISCI is a substantial facility that makes custom parts for many industries including certain accessories for the Spyder. I have the hand brake and I am not physically challenged. I purchased it because years of experience on two wheelers have conditioned me to hand brakes. I found that on the RT, it took extra time to actuate the foot brake and I felt that the ISCI brake would shorten the time for brake actuation.

The ISCI product simply actuates the existing Can Am brake system that is already a highly effective design. The foot brake remains fully operational and the installation of the ISCI product does not interfere with or modify the Can Am system.

The quality of the ISCI product is stunning as it is hand assembled and welded by highly competent engineers and technicians who are bikers also. They are a very accommodating group and I could not say enough good about them.

 

[dogugotw]

reason for hand lever

For the average rider, however, especially a novice, they are a distraction and could even be considered a liability. I don't see any need for them to be standard equipment

So a few years back, I am cranking through a curve on my 650 ninja. I ride with all controls covered. A deer comes like a bat outta hell from my right and I squeeze the brakes. She passed so close to my front tire that I couldn't see her legs below the knee. If I had to move my hands to grab the brakes, I would have hit her. On my stl, I can't keep my foot on the brake lever. If I had been on my spyder, I would have hit her. I think hand controls are a great idea.