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Can-Am didn't get the memo I guess - 2023 Electric Motorcycles release....

Name one issue that has been caused by the general populace.

I am not saying the general populace has caused any issue, and I feel that gas and electricity have their place. One shouldn't completely replace the other. Case in point, I drive a ton of miles for work and an EV wouldn't work for my type of driving so I use a gas powered car. Plus, EV cars are $$$. I have an EV lawn mower and recycle when I can.
 
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I am not saying the general populace has caused any issue, and I feel that gas and electricity have their place. One shouldn't completely replace the other. Case in point, I drive a ton of miles for work and an EV wouldn't work for my type of driving so I use a gas powered car. Plus, EV cars are $$$. I have an EV lawn mower and recycle when I can.

I am in the same boat. I am in IT and cover the province of NS here in Canada. I am constantly on the road 24/7. Pre-pandemic I always had 1 or 2 months a year where I have put over 10k km on the car, not every single year but certainly in the last 5 years prior. I've gone through a lot of cars over the years (35 years in IT).

I have electric lawn equipment - no gas, pool is heated by solar, lighting and electronics in the garage are all solar and same with the house. We do what we can.

When it comes to cars (and bikes) it's has to be gas for us all the way until the time comes where they can be charged in minutes and have at least a 800km range AND are able to be rapidly charged at gas stations. That being said, we have a pretty good infrastructure going on here in NS for electric car charging.

BUT, when I see some of these UGLY A$$ designs of electric bikes I have to ask WHY? If they want to sell them, don't make them look that butt ugly! I would never buy one... not because their electric but because they are just so visually unappealing!!

Tim
 
How's this for going green?

Fossil fuels are the largest sources of energy for electricity generation. :yikes: (Catch-22: Use more electricity.....use more fossil fuels) :banghead:

Natural gas was the largest source—about 38%—of U.S. electricity generation in 2021. Natural gas is used in steam turbines and gas turbines to generate electricity.

Coal was the second-largest energy source for U.S. electricity generation in 2021—about 22%. Nearly all coal-fired power plants use steam turbines. A few coal-fired power plants convert coal to a gas for use in a gas turbine to generate electricity.

And in case you want to know where these facts came from...... http://https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/electricity-in-the-us.php

Wind turbines and solar panel farms just don't cut it! It appears Nuclear is the only way to truly go green at this point in time.
 
My 2 cents.
I'm getting ready to purchase a new Hyundai Ionic 5.
I drive 159 miles one way to work, will plug it in, at the end of the week drive home, plug it in again. It has a 306 mile range.
This will work for me.
Here's where it gets fun

Everyone keeps talking about how much electricity they use. The average house uses 80kwh a day. My charging for a month will be 40kwh. Not much electricity. However I am using over $400.00 in gas a month.
By the way, I own and ride a 2013 Spyder RTL!
 
I am not saying the general populace has caused any issue, and I feel that gas and electricity have their place. One shouldn't completely replace the other. Case in point, I drive a ton of miles for work and an EV wouldn't work for my type of driving so I use a gas powered car. Plus, EV cars are $$$. I have an EV lawn mower and recycle when I can.

I'm not against ev's per se, it's the hijacking of an ideology to further hidden agendas by unelected tyrants that gets my bristles up.
I've lost all trust in most ''information'' from most departments, bureaus etc. Too much weird S$%# happening to be legit.:banghead:
 
I'm not against ev's per se, it's the hijacking of an ideology to further hidden agendas by unelected tyrants that gets my bristles up.
I've lost all trust in most ''information'' from most departments, bureaus etc. Too much weird S$%# happening to be legit.:banghead:

Are we talking about Can-Am developing electric motorcycles that we're not going to buy?
 
I have a home that runs on solar, and I pay very little for electricity.



~~~I have to ask. You’re able to sell the excess electricity you generate from solar back to the electric utility aren’t you? Or to put it another way,(asking a question) does your electric utility company buy back electricity you’re able to generate from your solar panels?

Apologies in advance to anyone offended by my questions


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.
It’s never too late to have a happy childhood
 
I'm not about to get rid of my 2021 RT, but I also own a Honda PCX 150 scooter for just zipping around town and running errands. Its a hoot to ride. I would certainly consider replacing that gasoline powered scooter with an electric bike or motorcycle at some point. The Harley Livewire is very intrigueing but at over $30,000 I don't see it as a viable alternative to my $4,000 scooter (when new in 2019) which gets an average of about 100 mpg. A more reasonably priced electric motorcycle would be very attractive for me.
 
~~~I have to ask. You’re able to sell the excess electricity you generate from solar back to the electric utility aren’t you? Or to put it another way,(asking a question) does your electric utility company buy back electricity you’re able to generate from your solar panels?

Apologies in advance to anyone offended by my questions


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.
It’s never too late to have a happy childhood

I think this a topic best explored on its own thread.
 
Can't help but wonder what kind of range the street edition will have and how long a wait while charging. It seems to me that going green is going to make you add time to your scheduled trips (days not hours). Not really a touring feature. I'll stay with my fossil fuel Thank you.

I am sure whatever the range is.... there will never be one in my garage. I have ridden the ZERO and tested the Harley they are very cool but don't plan on going far
you could never use one to ride on a poker run or any rie of more than about 85 miles to be safe
 
I'm not against ev's per se, it's the hijacking of an ideology to further hidden agendas by unelected tyrants that gets my bristles up.
I've lost all trust in most ''information'' from most departments, bureaus etc. Too much weird S$%# happening to be legit.:banghead:

From one crackpot to another, you have a very good grasp on reality.
 
The electric Spyders have a trailer option with a spare battery pack and Honda generator.

And if you don't care for the trailer option then the extension cord option is always available at any of your favorite hardware stores.
 
A commuter two wheel motorcycle may very well have a useful place in their product range, as would an electric bike kept adjacent to nearby mountains and hills. It's also a place to start so we can eventually have the infrastructure to make electrical practical for riding several hundred miles in a day, and having the range and access to charging that currently exists for gasoline. This isn't for us, at least not yet, and at least for a while.

I have a home that runs on solar, and I pay very little for electricity. We can certainly make more of our energy clean, and they are working on batteries that will be better for the environment. None of this is going to be ideal in the early adoption range, or suitable for every owner, but I think it's a smart place to re-enter a market that where the buyers are aging out and where something newer like this could appeal to a younger audience.

But that is just it. Your home runs on solar because it can be permanently attached to your own grid. By nature, a vehicle will be off the grid and have to carry its power with it. Battery operated vehicles work great in warm weather and in short trips, But they are not ideal for much of America who use their cars for longer commutes or in cold weather. For tour bikes, batteries are a poor choice just like an ICE would be a poor choice for an iPhone. Sometimes it feels like the left wants a one solution for everything instead of thinking things through.
 
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