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BRP Care

Some people like to complain AND exaggerate; behind the anonymity provided by the internet... nojoke


Yep, SOME people have a trouble free bike and just want to cause a problem and complain here on the forum. Personally, I haven't seen that, but since you are here by the minute, you have an advantage on the rest of us. You should report these low lives, maybe the OP of this thread??? I'm sure the people with 2013s are at the head of your list, and all of the people that were stranded by the DESS issue, what a bunch of exaggerators. Shame on them. You missed the whole point of this thread and my point, if BRP cared they would communicate with the end user with a problem or question. One great example is the guy that had an unexplained oil leak on a new bike, blaming a dealer with stripping out the oil plug, had to replace the "case" and still had the problem, BRP washed their hands. God forbid they get involved and make the dealer take care of the issue, or even begin to police their dealers. IMO BRP should be sending you a check because you are a positive beacon for them.

Since Lamott has all of your/our info, there is little anonymity on SL. When I had a similar forum, I could show up at your house, if I needed to.
 
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The obvious question must be asked:
1. What problems have you endured with your bike?
2. How did BRP respond?

For the record; I've had two RTs
My 2010 had three throttle body failures, a throttle position sensor failure, a brake switch failure, and a windshield center strut failure...
My 2014 had a cruise control switch quit working, and the radio reception is non-existent...

So My ownership experience has had it's share of interesting times...
BRP and my dealer have always treated me with respect...

To say that they only respond to lawsuits and threats from NHTSA; is simply inaccurate!
 
Why would even hope that BRP would care about anything that doesn't involve a liability or a government forced recall.
I have a 2015 f3s which has thrown me for a loop a couple of times. I handled them with steve at brp cares, in the most professional way possible and had my problems taken care of within a few short days. I didn't post a lot of negatives, only asked for help from others on the forum as to what the problems could be, or if anyone else had similar problems. starting out with a positive friendly attitude goes a long way! I personally can't say enough about brp cares.:2thumbs::2thumbs:
 
I have a 2015 f3s which has thrown me for a loop a couple of times. I handled them with steve at brp cares, in the most professional way possible and had my problems taken care of within a few short days. I didn't post a lot of negatives, only asked for help from others on the forum as to what the problems could be, or if anyone else had similar problems. starting out with a positive friendly attitude goes a long way! I personally can't say enough about brp cares.:2thumbs::2thumbs:

This should be the normal, not a hit and miss situation as it seems to be. That is my only point, it isn't the normal, I doubt if anyone starts a thread about contacting BRP and having no response when it isn't true. You pay $200-$500 for a Garmin and you have an email contact that is responded too quickly, you have a 800# that is answered and your question/problem is solved. This isn't rocket science, sure with a dealer in the loop, it adds another dimension to the situation, but my only point is that if BRP really cared, you wouldn't have numerous post about them not.

My experiences with BRP isn't the issue, when I have any issue and its not resolved, I have found that the legal system will get a resolution.


I certainly agree that you should always chill out before you contact anyone when you have an issue.

This discussion is that people have problems and get no responses from their BRP CARES "line". Personal experiences that were satisfactory don't cancel the fact that it apparently is not the normal as most people would agree is the way it should be. Defending a hit & miss response from BRP Cares seems silly, the OP had a problem, waited a reasonable time for help and got nothing. Yes, I posted a hostile post which might have needed reputed, but IMO if BRP CARED, this or any other thread about this behavior wouldn't be anywhere on this forum.

IMO the fact that there are threads stating that "I made a long trip and didn't have any issues with the bike" proves my point. We all put about 15K miles a year on our cars and we don't see that type of statement. This is what you expect every time you get behind the wheel. I expect that on my bike too.
 
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IMO if they really cared, when someone had a problem that wasn't obviously OP error, they could communicate with a PM.
Hi pitzerwm,
I'm sorry you feel that way. We try to reach out to folks who express difficulty solving an issue here on the forums as often as we can, although it's impossible to catch them all (and monitoring PMs is not feasible across all forums, so we disable those). I'm not aware of any other powersports manufacturer who engages with customers on third-party forums the way we do.

Furthermore, if you run into an issue, you can always contact us directly at [email protected] - that inbox goes straight to my team. If there's anything specific you're concerned about, I invite you to get in touch with me and we'll deal with it together.
Thanks and have a great weekend,
Steve
 
Hi pitzerwm,
I'm sorry you feel that way. We try to reach out to folks who express difficulty solving an issue here on the forums as often as we can, although it's impossible to catch them all (and monitoring PMs is not feasible across all forums, so we disable those). I'm not aware of any other powersports manufacturer who engages with customers on third-party forums the way we do.

Furthermore, if you run into an issue, you can always contact us directly at [email protected] - that inbox goes straight to my team. If there's anything specific you're concerned about, I invite you to get in touch with me and we'll deal with it together.
Thanks and have a great weekend,
Steve


What you missed is that the OP and others have emailed you directly.
 
...we all are aware that negative is posted more than positive, but the ratio is still way off. The 2013 delayed/denied recall is a prime example. IMO in light of the fact that these bikes are not a $50 cheap Chinese POS, BRP should have a dept that is available for communication with the customer, OH, I forgot the end user isn't their customer, the dealer is their only customer.
Bill,

As you know, there are two sides to every disagreement. (I think it was you that suggested there were actually three sides, but I still don't agree with that. ;) ) Let's look at some of the things you said above about the 2013 RT situation, for example...

Delayed Resolution - I actually believe that it took them two years to figure out a reasonable fix that would actually work. Did the NHTSA help them arrive at that point? Sure, but that's what the NHTSA does. Virtually all vehicle manufacturers need the "incentive" of the NHTSA to help them get to the point of ultimate resolution - whether or not a formal government case is filed.

Deniability - In today's litigious environment, large corporations must be extremely careful about admitting fault and responsibility. Otherwise the public would sue them into oblivion. That's just a fact. It's frustrating as heck though, for customers who have to wait - just like in the case of the current D.E.S.S problem.

As for a "department to communicate with customers", of course you realize that BRP does have that. It's the "After Sales Support Team', also known as BRPCare. Your complaint is not that the department doesn't exist, but in how their "front line" people too often go about dealing with customers. And your argument has validity, from my perspective. I've given this a lot of thought, in the past, and here is the conclusion I have come to...

BRP does in fact, seem to be under the impression that the best way to filter out frivolous owner claims is to give owners a hard time up front. They appear to take the position that "serious" and "legitimate" claims will be pursued through that "initial filter' and therefore do ultimately deserve serious consideration and potential resolution. On the few occasions that I have had reason to contact BRP Customer Service by phone, I have indeed ALWAYS been met with a bit of a hassle. Their first position is always, "Go see your dealer." After I've told them I've already done that, they have always been polite to me, but steadfast in their initial refusal to do anything with a phone call - thereafter blaming their position on someone higher up who's job does NOT involve taking phone calls. But... they also have a system for working beyond that point.

Any customer who has a claim denied can email or write to BRP Customer service with a claim dispute. In the case of U.S. customers, the first step is go through BRPCare U.S. headquarters in Sturtevant, Wisconsin, or Spyderlover forum members can email "[email protected]". You simply give them the facts, along with whatever written support you have, and ask that the claim be passed up the ladder for further consideration. The one time I've had to do that, I went through Sturtevant, and ultimately received a letter from the Canadian home office with a fair resolution that made me completely whole.

I'm not necessarily saying that that is how the system SHOULD work. I don't agree that BRP should put their customers through that "filter". I'm just saying that's apparently their system and it does work, for those willing to pursue it. And that's a LOT better than I can say for some other companies, like General Motors Corporation, for example. :sour:
 
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Rob, I won't argue with your points as I only have the forum as a reference. They do not support your thoughts.

The OP stated that he had emailed their BRP Care email and in 2 weeks no response. Then Steve comes on and says that all you need to do is email their email account. There are hundreds of threads about BRP not addressing/responding to customer problems. Justifying their behavior, by they are better than some doesn't cut it with me.

I use to do consulting on customer service, and there are a lot of companies that don't have a clue. Other than the check clearing, I didn't care if they changed their ways or not. I just didn't buy their products if they didn't.

My participation in this thread was only a hope that BRP Cares improve their customer service 1%. Reread Steve's post, it's obvious that he only saw my post & didn't read the OP's post. CYA I see that while I was typing, Steve responded again. Since the OP listed the correct email address, I'm going with "that he sent it to the correct place".
 
Rob, I won't argue with your points as I only have the forum as a reference. They do not support your thoughts.

The OP stated that he had emailed their BRP Care email and in 2 weeks no response. Then Steve comes on and says that all you need to do is email their email account. There are hundreds of threads about BRP not addressing/responding to customer problems. Justifying their behavior, by they are better than some doesn't cut it with me.

I use to do consulting on customer service, and there are a lot of companies that don't have a clue. Other than the check clearing, I didn't care if they changed their ways or not. I just didn't buy their products if they didn't.

My participation in this thread was only a hope that BRP Cares improve their customer service 1%. Reread Steve's post, it's obvious that he only saw my post & didn't read the OP's post. CYA I see that while I was typing, Steve responded again. Since the OP listed the correct email address, I'm going with "that he sent it to the correct place".

In this instance, the OP sent the e-mail to a non-address. There was a (.) missing. I was first to point that out and then BRP and others verified.
 
Ok, apologies to everyone affected. Missed that fine point. One might suggest that they setup both emails since a period in the middle of an address isn't usual/expected.

One might still point out that there have been numerous instants where BRP didn't provide good customer service. Like I also said if BRP makes a tiny improvement to their customer relationships we all win.

Mia Culpa Steve.:bowdown:
 
Hi pitzerwm,
I'm sorry you feel that way. We try to reach out to folks who express difficulty solving an issue here on the forums as often as we can, although it's impossible to catch them all (and monitoring PMs is not feasible across all forums, so we disable those). I'm not aware of any other powersports manufacturer who engages with customers on third-party forums the way we do.

Furthermore, if you run into an issue, you can always contact us directly at [email protected] - that inbox goes straight to my team. If there's anything specific you're concerned about, I invite you to get in touch with me and we'll deal with it together.
Thanks and have a great weekend,
Steve


They way you do...that is a good one!!! My spider was not 2 years old and spent 6 months in the shop what I got from brp was not one phone call and from brp care.....I will say it was a jock. They caused more harm than good and I will leave it at that! Sorry brp care team and Steve you get an F in my book!!
 
Ok, apologies to everyone affected. Missed that fine point. One might suggest that they setup both emails since a period in the middle of an address isn't usual/expected.
It is for MS Outlook. In fact it's required, or at least was in years past.

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Ok, apologies to everyone affected. Missed that fine point. One might suggest that they setup both emails since a period in the middle of an address isn't usual/expected.
It is for MS Outlook. In fact it's required, or at least was in years past.



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To be fair, the OP was using the wrong email address and admitted that his emails came back as "undeliverable".

Rob the e-mail, even thou it was misaddressed by me. DID NOT come back. That's why I posted I didn't get an answer. Sorry for any confusion on my part. Steve has gotten back to me twice now. They are addressing my problem. Hopefully to a positive solution. :thumbup: Tom :spyder:
 
I think that you are misinformed. I have a couple dozen email addresses and use Outlook. No periods in the "name". Of course you need .com/.net
That could be but all the ones I saw years ago had periods.
Rob the e-mail, even thou it was misaddressed by me. DID NOT come back. That's why I posted I didn't get an answer. Sorry for any confusion on my part. Steve has gotten back to me twice now. They are addressing my problem. Hopefully to a positive solution. [emoji106] Tom :spyder:
I've had mis-addressed emails not come back at times.

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Rob the e-mail, even thou it was misaddressed by me. DID NOT come back. That's why I posted I didn't get an answer. Sorry for any confusion on my part. Steve has gotten back to me twice now. They are addressing my problem. Hopefully to a positive solution. :thumbup: Tom :spyder:
My apologies, Tom. :opps: I went back and re-read your original message and I read right past the word "not" the first time I read it. Sorrys that i misquoted you. Glad you're getting the problem addressed. :thumbup:
 
Does BRP really care? Well.........

I sent Steve an email on 8-25-16 regarding an issue with my spyder's air bag. He emailed me back on 8-26-16 and told me he'd check in to the matter with others of his team and would get back to me next week. Can't complain about that. We'll see how it goes next week.
 
BRP Care - Great for me...

Same for me, 2dogs......I sent an email to BRP care re concerns, and received a detailed email reply from Steve overnight. We then went back and forth a couple more times, all in a reasonable time frame. BRP care is one of the reasons I went with the Spyder, along with all the invaluable info from forum members here.

Pete
 
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