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BRP are you listening?

Damned if they do, damned if they don't...

Personally, I'm very glad they continued to improve on the RT for 2010 to 2014, because my 2014 is a far better machine.

The F3 seems to have made a lot of people happy, and adds something new to the lineup.

Yes, we all agree that the 2013 RT was a huge problem, but you don't make progress and grow without making mistakes (although it could and should have been handled far better). I also can't imagine that they don't need a reasonably sized market to make it profitable to continue to produce and maintain our Spyders.

These, also, are not two wheeled motorcycles, and had they approached this by simply trying to add a third wheel to what already exits then I have a strong feeling that they would be far less than they are. From a design point of view, I think it makes a lot of sense that they believe they are something different than a motorcycle, because that perspective opens up creativity and possibilities.
 
RT

The RT version was the first :spyder: i ever seen and what attracted me to the Can Am Spyder line up. I didn't know about the RS/ST/GS versions until i started researching the RT. I was hooked on the RT's style. I had to have a :spyder: and it had to be the RT without a doubt. :ohyea: I have read about a lot of problems with the :spyder:but i guess that's with anything :dontknow:. I'm still a fan of the RT more than any other model. :firstplace:
 
What did they find was the problem? I don't remember any safety recall relating to fires.

My memory is coming back. Is this when BRP extended the vent tube based on VIN. I talked to Carlo at the time b/c my VIN wasn't on the list, and he contacted my dealer to have the new vent tube installed.

Thanks for reminding me.

I also remember having a problem no one else ever had, and having to agree to a non-disclosure clause, and then receiving a reimbursement. Wow, I had completely forgotten. I still have my 2008 GS, SM5.

There was no answer to the problem that I know of. Speculation was about evap canister getting full of gas and causing the fires.

And yes, Carlo was involved. One of the victims wanted them eat the 2008 and give him the new red 2009 SE5 that was sitting on the dealers showroom floor. Lots of discussion over that one.

Memories?????
 
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Otherwise, I really think they need consider looking at some of the naked bikes out there(Triumph Triple, KTM Duke, Ducati Motard/Street Fighter)...missing a BIG market, not having a simple naked sport trike. One of the biggest complaints about the Spyder and definitely not eveyone wants a Frunk or luggage on it. Many just want a simple frame to ride. I don't see any other manufacturers making tour bikes ONLY...

Um, pay attention here y'all. He is onto something here............the F3 took us in this direction, but not far enough....
 
OK, so maybe now is the time to bring this one up again. Back about 2004 or so when we were riding some of the Spyder prototypes and then de-briefing afterwards, I brought up the subject of the dual-sport Spyder. One with more ground clearance that could be ridden on forest roads. The Spyder team looked at me like I was high or something. They said that ATVs or side-by-sides could do that, to which my response was "only on designated trails". They asked why I wanted such a crazy thing. Simple, was my response, I wanted a Spyder that we could ride on all of the gravel forest roads, or on paved roads, like a dual sport bike. I was asking for a street-legal Spyder that would also be legal on ALL roads open to a plated vehicle. I wanted a Spyder that we could drift through the gravel roads on, like a rally car. One that we could ride on all of the state and federal forest roads that our snowmobile trails were on in the winter. They were thinking street bike, I was thinking dirt bike (or snowmobile).

The dual sport adventure bike market is exploding right now. I own a Kawasaki KLR 650 just for the purpose of being able to ride on pavement, on gravel, on forest roads, even on the single track dirt bike trails. With the popularity of dual sport adventure bikes, maybe the time has come to explore such a "crazy" machine once again. Maybe not what this crowd here would be looking for, but there are a good number of potentials out there that would see the benefit of such a crazy machine. Every ATV, side by side and snowmobile owner would jump at the chance to ride legally on any right of way that a plated vehicle can drive on. Paved or not. This custom Spyder here from Italy is the closest I have seen....
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Bob D.,

I have it on good authority that the new spyder will be named The Extant, and will be without panels, in memory of Mickey, one of the fallen Five.
 
Isn't she the one who is supposed to be able to keep a secret?

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To keep the engine in its sweet spot in the power band. At 4k, if you are riding in 5th, the bike is lugging. I ride in 4th from about 50 mph (appx as I can't recall exactly) to about 60 mph.

I do the same. Shift points 6000 plus. Don't use 5th unless 68mph plus.

Had alignment last year. When Mike from Rolo put on the buds and checked my shift points said they were good but could go a little more :thumbup:
 
I do the same. Shift points 6000 plus. Don't use 5th unless 68mph plus.

Had alignment last year. When Mike from Rolo put on the buds and checked my shift points said they were good but could go a little more :thumbup:

And the higher rpm range is really more critical for the se them the sm
 
The only Spyder for me is the RS. I love mine and would never have been interested to look into a RT or ST. I am in the minority, but I don't like the F3 and find it very uncomfortable. The point here is that there is a model that will appeal to everyone and that is great. I'm old school and like the manual shift and motorcycle like controls of the RS. That being said, I found my stock RS very uncomfortable and modded the hell out of it. The end result makes me happy. It seems that is the case for many on Spyderlovers and that is great!:doorag:
 
I love my RSS and would love to see a V4 ;)

Needs to be something significant to make a change, but the riding position can not change, and get rid of those CRAZY clown colors of last year
 
Actually; I've been giving a fair bunch of thought to this thread... :yikes:
BRP:
How about slowing down the time between product planning, and roll-out by increasing the length of time that real World testing is done?
How about taking another look at your outside vendors, and instituting stricter quality control procedures?

Please work on the quality of the products...
 
product timing

Quote from above - How about slowing down the time between product planning, and roll-out

I'd change this to - slowing down the time between product ANNOUNCEMENT/Launch and roll-out

It's a bit difficult to get excited about 2016 models when the first Australian F3 (other than a demo or two) hit the roads last month - 9 months after the launch.. and the first time we saw it was in April.

Wouldn't it be a good idea if sales could capture the moment of launch-excitement? Not pre-sales; actual sales with real spyders that people can buy and ride. Just a thought..
 
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