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Speaking of F150s, mine is a 2017 with the 2.7. If I'm staying around town its regular 87 octane. Ethanol free when I can find it, otherwise it gets treatment. On the highway , or towing , it's the highest grade I can find at the pump. Usually Exxon 93 octane because I take advantage of their discount gimmick's. That being said, around town, lightly loaded, see about 21 to 23 MPG. On the highway with 93, I can come close to 24 MPG. This came about because I saw a couple of lines in my owner's manual ( who the hell reads those) that said words to the effect that 87 is just fine overall, but for best performance, I don't recall this minute if towing was specifically mentioned, use a higher octane fuel. And as far as Pyder goes, I can't tell the difference what I put in it. Runs about the same, just a relatively thirsty high mileage 998.
David
 
Speaking of F150s, mine is a 2017 with the 2.7. If I'm staying around town its regular 87 octane. Ethanol free when I can find it, otherwise it gets treatment. On the highway , or towing , it's the highest grade I can find at the pump. Usually Exxon 93 octane because I take advantage of their discount gimmick's. That being said, around town, lightly loaded, see about 21 to 23 MPG. On the highway with 93, I can come close to 24 MPG. This came about because I saw a couple of lines in my owner's manual ( who the hell reads those) that said words to the effect that 87 is just fine overall, but for best performance, I don't recall this minute if towing was specifically mentioned, use a higher octane fuel. And as far as Pyder goes, I can't tell the difference what I put in it. Runs about the same, just a relatively thirsty high mileage 998.
David

Highway miles are typically more, if we’re talking cars and trucks. My city driving is typically 19 or 20 mpg, and on the highway I get 24-26 mpg for my 2018 Wrangler. I us 87 with 10% ethonal.
 
Which of course leads to the question-----What is the compression of the 1330 motor???????
Lew L
If I remember correctly, it's 12 to 1. :yikes:

However, good cooling, proper dynamics in the combustion chamber and lots of computer control can do wonders. :thumbup:

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If I remember correctly, it's 12 to 1. :yikes:

However, good cooling, proper dynamics in the combustion chamber and lots of computer control can do wonders. :thumbup:

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That's good to know. I know my poor, old, Dodge Magnum R/T runs better with premium ( of course I've recently added a DiabloSport Itune 3 that needs 91 octane). Just seems to me that a motor with 12 to 1 compression should use higher octane for the best horsepower and torque. Sure the computer and anti-knock sensors will dial back timing and maybe other things, But I'll take the horse power afforded by the higher compression without computer interference.

Lew L
 
I agree with Lew L, 12:1 compression needs premium. If you are buying regular to save money, try annualizing the difference between regular and premium. It will require taking notes at every fillup for a year to learn you didn't save all that much.
 
I agree with Lew L, 12:1 compression needs premium. If you are buying regular to save money, try annualizing the difference between regular and premium. It will require taking notes at every fillup for a year to learn you didn't save all that much.

I don't take notes on this subject ..... in my area ( mid-Vt. ) the price difference is .80 +/- ., so if I buy say 4 gals. , that's $3.20, just about every time I buy gas, and this is usually 3 - 4 times per week during riding season .... that's about $11.20 per week ... and $45.00 per month .... and the season here is 7 mos. +/- ...= $313.60 ...... this will buy me 3 season ski passes, or some new equipment. I hope this puts it in perspective. ...... Mike :thumbup:
 
Mike, you ride a lot more than I do. So yes, that's 3 ski passes or a sway bar's worth. Perspective is everything.
 
Typical Can-Am States "Premium unleaded gasoline", yet they also state "87 pump octane minimum". Thinking Can-Am and their engineers wouldn't state 87 octane minimum if it was harmful to their product...


Type Premium unleaded gasoline
87 Pump Posted AKI (RON+MON)/2 Minimum octane
92 RON
91 Pump Posted AKI (RON+MON)/2
Fuel - Refer to
FUEL REQUIREMENTS
Recommended octane
95 RON
Fuel tank capacity 27 L (7.1 U.S. gal.)
 
Typical Can-Am States "Premium unleaded gasoline", yet they also state "87 pump octane minimum". Thinking Can-Am and their engineers wouldn't state 87 octane minimum if it was harmful to their product...


Type Premium unleaded gasoline
87 Pump Posted AKI (RON+MON)/2 Minimum octane
92 RON
91 Pump Posted AKI (RON+MON)/2
Fuel - Refer to
FUEL REQUIREMENTS
Recommended octane
95 RON
Fuel tank capacity 27 L (7.1 U.S. gal.)

Annnnnnnnnnd it's not ( harmful ) ..... 56,000 + miles on my 1330 and I accept that my performance is maybe 99.9 % of what it could be. ..... Mike :thumbup:
 
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