Blue Tooth Dongle install on 2013 ST Limited

[jimmykjimmy]

I'm a little confused on the bluetooth dongle install. When I go to the BRP page showing the dongle it shows it being installed next to the 12 volt outlet. I went to the 12 volt outlet on my Spyder and next to it is a multi pin connector. So my question is two fold;
1) do you just plug the dongle into the outlet and it works?
2) if you do plug in at the multi pin outlet does the bluetooth also get it's power from this outlet.

Many of the answers regarding the install of the dongle seem far more complex. I was hoping installing the dongle would simply be plug and play...but this is a Spyder.

Any ideas or suggestions,thx

Jimmykjimmy

 

[billybovine]

I'm a little confused on the bluetooth dongle install. When I go to the BRP page showing the dongle it shows it being installed next to the 12 volt outlet. I went to the 12 volt outlet on my Spyder and next to it is a multi pin connector. So my question is two fold;
1) do you just plug the dongle into the outlet and it works?
2) if you do plug in at the multi pin outlet does the bluetooth also get it's power from this outlet.

Many of the answers regarding the install of the dongle seem far more complex. I was hoping installing the dongle would simply be plug and play...but this is a Spyder.

Any ideas or suggestions,thx

Jimmykjimmy

1) No
2) No

You do not use the 12 volt outlet or the Ipod input socket. When you buy the Bluetooth Dongle from BRP it comes with a harness that connects to the radio in the right tail section of the Spyder to the dongle in the front truck. This harness has stereo output from the radio and +5 volts to operate and charge the dongle.

 

[Bob Denman]

I am perhaps overthinking this dongle... :shocked:
I'm now guessing that it'll allow you to pick up the stereo in your headphones...
Is it needed to transmit the GPS instructions from the Zumo 660 as well, or does that unit already have it's own Bluetooth dance going on? :dontknow:

 

[Flamewinger]

If you just want to hear the GPS then a Bluetooth headset should be able to connect to the GPS and you can hear commands. If you want to listen to radio as well as GPS commands (and MP3music) then you'll need the Bluetooth dongle. You can hear the radio through the outside speakers if you turn the volume up really loud.

I have the dongle and I can hear AM/FM radio or I can hear my satellite radio which is connected to the dongle. If I want to listen to my iPod I just swap the cables Anderson's iPod. I can also hear other auxiliary items such as radar detector or maybe CB no talk, just listen.

And yes you do need to BRP Bluetooth dongle because it comes with the extra cable connecting it to the radio. I would also recommend getting the matching Sena Bluetooth headset because I have a Uclear headset and I have to pair it separately by turning on the Uclear and then the Sena Bluetooth dongle. If I separate the two far enough away, when I come back I have to do it all over again. I believe the Sena headset would pair automatically.

 

[Bob Denman]

I think that your explanation made it all quite clear; THANKS! :thumbup:

 

[cognaccruiser]

If you just want to hear the GPS then a Bluetooth headset should be able to connect to the GPS and you can hear commands. If you want to listen to radio as well as GPS commands (and MP3music) then you'll need the Bluetooth dongle. You can hear the radio through the outside speakers if you turn the volume up really loud.

I have the dongle and I can hear AM/FM radio or I can hear my satellite radio which is connected to the dongle. If I want to listen to my iPod I just swap the cables Anderson's iPod. I can also hear other auxiliary items such as radar detector or maybe CB no talk, just listen.

And yes you do need to BRP Bluetooth dongle because it comes with the extra cable connecting it to the radio. I would also recommend getting the matching Sena Bluetooth headset because I have a Uclear headset and I have to pair it separately by turning on the Uclear and then the Sena Bluetooth dongle. If I separate the two far enough away, when I come back I have to do it all over again. I believe the Sena headset would pair automatically.

Does that mean that I have to get the more expensive BRP Sena dongle rather than just getting the Sena SM10 dongle? Can't you get the cable needed otherwise? I'm a little confused here. I planned to get the Sena SMH10 head sets and the Sena SM10 dongle and the cable so that the Spyder radio could be heard through the headsets along with the Ipod etc on my coming RT-S.

 

[Flamewinger]

The Sena dongle by itself does not come with Spyder cable.

In the Do It Your self forum you can find how you can make your own cable and then buy the cheaper Sena dongle.


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[billybovine]

This has been posted before but I will repeat just in case. Sena sells a cable that it says will connect the SM10 to a Spyder. This cable will NOT work on most Spyders. It will only work on some RT's with jacks that you can plug your wired helmet into.

 

[Copperman]

Bluetooth Dongle install on 2013 RT & ST Limited

This has been posted before but I will repeat just in case. Sena sells a cable that it says will connect the SM10 to a Spyder. This cable will NOTwork on most Spyders. It will only work on some RT's with jacks that you can plug your wired helmet into.

This is pretty confusing. After talking with Dave (Motorcycle Dave) I learned that you need the Sena SM10 Dual Stream Bluetooth[SUP]®[/SUP] Stereo Transmitter and a special cable (that only BRP sells) to be able to hear your radio through your bluetooth headset on your 2013 RT & ST Limited. The cable Billybovine talks of works only on the 2012 and earlier Spyders.

I did some shopping around and learned that you can get the "Bluetooth Dongle for Audio System" (made for BRP by Sena), part number 219400458, for the 2013 RT & ST for $214.95 (MSRP is $249.99) from Bert's Mega Mall (ask for Daniel in Parts). That price includes free shipping and no sales tax if you're not in California.

Bert's is a sponsor here and offers a 15% discount on parts for Spyderlovers members.

I hope this helps. Does anyone know where you can get this item for less?

 

[finless]

Not sure where you heard that but my understanding is the sm10 dongle cable is the same for the 2013's as it is for the 2011-2012. Even BRP lists the same part number.
I am the person that posted how to make your own cable. Its not rocket science! You can get a sm10 from Dave for about $110 and it costs about $10 to make the cable. If you go the BRP route expect yo remove a lot of Tupperware or pay the dealer over $100 to install it.

Bob

 

[Copperman]

Not sure where you heard that but my understanding is the sm10 dongle cable is the same for the 2013's as it is for the 2011-2012. Even BRP lists the same part number.
I am the person that posted how to make your own cable. Its not rocket science! You can get a sm10 from Dave for about $110 and it costs about $10 to make the cable. If you go the BRP route expect yo remove a lot of Tupperware or pay the dealer over $100 to install it.

Bob

Just like I said... This is pretty confusing.

 

[Bob Denman]

For a bit of extra money; wouldn't it just seem wiser to buy the BRP parts that you know will work? :dontknow:
Are you saving enough money to make up for all of the potential aggravation? :shocked:

 

[Copperman]

For a bit of extra money; wouldn't it just seem wiser to buy the BRP parts that you know will work? :dontknow:
Are you saving enough money to make up for all of the potential aggravation? :shocked:

I know. That's why I ordered mine yesterday.

 

[Bob Denman]

We know that the BRP piece is $250.00 (approximately)
How much of a savings can be realized by going with SENA, and self-fabrication of a cable? :dontknow:

 

[Copperman]

We know that the BRP piece is $250.00 (approximately)
How much of a savings can be realized by going with SENA, and self-fabrication of a cable? :dontknow:

I paid $215 for mine, delivered. Well worth the few extra bucks.

 

[Bob Denman]

:2thumbs:
If I need to add a Dongle to my bike, YOU'RE the guy that I'm calling for advice! :clap:

 

[Copperman]

:2thumbs:
If I need to add a Dongle to my bike, YOU'RE the guy that I'm calling for advice! :clap:

Read post #9.

 

[Bob Denman]

Got it... :thumbup:

 

[billybovine]

In my case I decided not to get one. The only thing it would add is to hear the radio in my helmet headset. I would still like to have that function but when you add up the cost and the inconvenience of using it I just decided no. My phone/mp3 player and Garmin 660 are paired to my headset. I do nothing but start my Spyder and turn on the headset and everything works. If I got the SM10 dongle I would have to open the trunk, unzip the liner to turn on the unit before every ride and repeat to turn it off after every ride. If Sena improves how the unit works so that it turns on and off with a power source I would reconsider.

 

[finless]

For a bit of extra money; wouldn't it just seem wiser to buy the BRP parts that you know will work? :dontknow:
Are you saving enough money to make up for all of the potential aggravation? :shocked:

The instructions to make the cable WORK.... There is no "I Know will work".
Seriously the cable is 5 wires:
+12
Gnd
Audio left
Audio right
Audio common.

Even the dongle comes with the 3 ring earphone jack to the radio common to a simple cable you can buy at radio shack!!!

This is crertainly not rocket science and with the fact you can order the radio side connectors that plug into the radio (as described in my post and are common off the shelf parts) it would take all of about 10 minutes to make the cable!!!!
Trust me... you will spend far MORE time than that removing all the tupperware to install the BRP one per spec! Also your going to hate having the SM10 in the Frunk! So even if you did buy the BRP setup, do yourself a favor and install it in the trunk.

Honestly and not trying to slam anyone, but it amazes me that some would spend that kind of money for a cable that really cost BRP probably 50 cents to make. If they would sell the cable separately we would not be having a "make your own" thread. But they wont! Why? Because they want to rip you off and make a 400% markup on something you can buy off the shelf.
Sorry to rant but that is why I made my own cable. It's just too stupid have that kind of markup.

I tell you what... ANYONE that wants me to make them a cable, order the connector parts from that post and have them shipped to me. I will make a cable for you for free! You pay shipping of the completed cable is all I ask. In other words no out of pocket expense for me just my 10 minutes of labor.

Bob