Belt Dampener: BRP/Lamonster or Spyder Extras billet

[troop]

I'll preface this post by saying I currently have my OEM dampener with a Lamonster roller installed on my 2019 F3S. Nearing the 10K mile mark, I'm pondering installing a new roller. I have a 3k mile trip coming up and thinking of preventative maintenance. Checking my current pieces, all seem solid enough with no slop. Basically coming down to: Is extra cost of the Spyder Extras billet roller worth the added expense? The roller/OEM arm from Lamonster is $115sh, with the Spyder Extras billet being $160 from Slingmods with some current credit. Not sure of the quality of the Spyder Extras roller? Thoughts or experience? Thx

 

[K80Shooter]

What about just buying the roller only from Lamonster? 52.95 for the roller.

 

[troop]

That was (is) my original plan. Just wondering about longevity of the arm(s) themselves.

 

[PW2013STL]

That was (is) my original plan. Just wondering about longevity of the arm(s) themselves.

I maybe wrong, but I haven't heard of an OEM arm breaking only the roller failure. Back when Can Am first introduced the roller dampers for the F3 I purchased one and modified it to work on my 2014 RT. After around 11,000 miles the bearing started to fail. I than modified the roller and it's mount on the Can Am arm for two bearings (one on each end of the roller) every year I would replace both bearings with new ones. Did this for 4 years until the roller itself was warn down past it's useful life. At this time Lamount had come out with his new roller for the Can Am arm, but since I had modified my mount I couldn't use his roller.
It's your money, and the built arm sure looks nice, but since you cannot see it after it's mounted I myself would just replace the roller from Lamonters.

 

[Mikey]

It is plastic and there is a spring in there, so it dose have moving edges, that are rubbing on each other! Plastic over alum :dontknow: I would go for the alum! But for sure the rollers the weak link that takes the most abuse, that's a lot rpm's of a little bearing! I would run with out the dampener all together. When you ride one of these bikes you are feeling every thing on the road, one more thing really don't bother me, and I don't have to worry about a $2 bearing blowing my belt off my bike! Just my 2 cents! Keep it stupid simple!

 

[troop]

I wonder if the Lamonster roller fits on the Spyder Extras dampener? Something they likely won't tell you.

 

[bikerchris1270]

I'll preface this post by saying I currently have my OEM dampener with a Lamonster roller installed on my 2019 F3S. Nearing the 10K mile mark, I'm pondering installing a new roller. I have a 4k mile trip coming up and thinking of preventative maintenance. Checking my current pieces, all seem solid enough with no slop. Basically coming down to: Is extra cost of the Spyder Extras billet roller worth the added expense? The roller/OEM arm from Lamonster is $93sh, with the Spyder Extras billet being $160 from Slingmods with some current credit. Not sure of the quality of the Spyder Extras roller? Thoughts or experience? Thx

If you have the LaMonster roller, and if it’s in good condition……the bearings can be replaced easily. I’ve done this, and have repacked the new spare with grease.
I had a LaMonster bearing fail at 6k…..injested water and bearing rusted. Replaced with Stainless Steel Bearing.

 

[troop]

Just ordered the Spyder Extras dampener thru Slingmods. I'll look into rebuilding my current Lamonster roller at some point

 

[Rednaxs60]

It's all about peace of mind. If you question the maintenance, do it before you go on your trip, not after. Nothing worse than being half way through the trip and having a maintenance issue you considered bite you in the arse, and saying damn should have done that. If you have a significant other with you, becomes a bit more complex. I would also submit that a breakdown will not be in a convenient location.

Went to Dawson City in the Yukon in 2019 on our 1500. Did all the maintenance I could think of. Lots of open road with nothing in between towns. Whitehorse seems to be the only major centre for ordering parts/pieces for any type of vehicle in the far north. Met people who had motorcycle issues and had been waiting in hotels for 7 days for parts. Others had RV troubles and were more fortunate because of accommodations, but still and to wait for several days for parts. Round trip to get parts could be a 300 mile trip. Roadside assistance is not very good. Your trip is probably through more populated areas, but with the backlog of parts/supplies, and the possibility of no Spyder dealership, breakdowns are never fun.

Good luck. Cheers

 

[troop]

Sturgis > Glacier National Park > Home. Lots of desolation in SD/MT/ND. Yup, nothing wrong with peace of mind and preventative maintenance

 

[RICZ]

It is plastic and there is a spring in there, so it dose have moving edges, that are rubbing on each other! Plastic over alum :dontknow: I would go for the alum! But for sure the rollers the weak link that takes the most abuse, that's a lot rpm's of a little bearing! I would run with out the dampener all together. When you ride one of these bikes you are feeling every thing on the road, one more thing really don't bother me, and I don't have to worry about a $2 bearing blowing my belt off my bike! Just my 2 cents! Keep it stupid simple!

I have to agree wit Mikey. For me, the vibes only show up @ 70 to 72 mph. That's a very narrow band that I can ride above or below. No 'tensioner" is one less thing to worry about. Besides, no one has said the vibes cause a problem, just an annoyance. There is a big difference between a problem and an inconvenience.

 

[troop]

Who knows? BRP put one standard on my F3S for a reason. Maybe has to do with the 89t drive pulley? Coulda spent the $$ on something less useful I guess...

 

[RICZ]

Who knows? BRP put one standard on my F3S for a reason. Maybe has to do with the 89t drive pulley? Coulda spent the $$ on something less useful I guess...

Or maybe they've seen the complaints about belt vibes and are appeasing those types.

 

[troop]

Got the Spyder Extras arm/roller today. Fast two day shipping from Slingmods. It is a substantial, beefy piece that is beautifully constructed. Much stouter than the OEM plastic piece. The roller itself is slightly smaller in diameter than the Lamonster, but stouter than the OEM roller. I wanted to post comparo pix, but no luck. Peace of mind...

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I'll preface this post by saying I currently have my OEM dampener with a Lamonster roller installed on my 2019 F3S. Nearing the 10K mile mark, I'm pondering installing a new roller. I have a 3k mile trip coming up and thinking of preventative maintenance. Checking my current pieces, all seem solid enough with no slop. Basically coming down to: Is extra cost of the Spyder Extras billet roller worth the added expense? The roller/OEM arm from Lamonster is $115sh, with the Spyder Extras billet being $160 from Slingmods with some current credit. Not sure of the quality of the Spyder Extras roller? Thoughts or experience? Thx

An " alternate " thought .... I re-moved belt vibe issues by lowering the tension to 160 lbs. - wheel ONthe ground using the KritKit ..... If you use a Roller and it craps out you can pretty much Kiss your drive belt goodbye and have about $ 5 to 600 dollars ready for a new one ... ( PS this has happened to others here ) .... good luck .... Mike :thumbup:

 

[2dogs]

It doesn't take much effort to reach up under and check the belt tensioner roller for wabble. Check it often. If you are on a trip, carry some extra zip ties. If the roller has slack in it, zip tie it up and off the belt until you get home and then change it out.