• There were many reasons for the change of the site software, the biggest was security. The age of the old software also meant no server updates for certain programs. There are many benefits to the new software, one of the biggest is the mobile functionality. Ill fix up some stuff in the coming days, we'll also try to get some of the old addons back or the data imported back into the site like the garage. To create a thread or to reply with a post is basically the same as it was in the prior software. The default style of the site is light colored, but i temporarily added a darker colored style, to change you can find a link at the bottom of the site.

ATTENTION TO ANYONE NEW TO SPYDERLOVERS FORUM

I try to push this point every chance I get...this is a great site and much like a doctors office. You find more folks ailing and looking for help, cures, and solutions then happy healthy ryders. But they are all there and would add one word of caution as well...to those coming from some nice comfortable air-conditioned car, you will now be sitting on your engine all 998cc's and over 100hp's you will feel and hear everything that goes on there. You are not going to get 80 mpg's, your tires will not last 50,000 miles abd your oil changes will not take 10 min's...but you will not find a better ryde or a better bunch of people to help you..!! :thumbup:

+1000 Chupa!

The Spyder attracts people that may never have ridden before! Hell I have not owned a 2 wheeler since I was 24 and got married (I just turned 54). I rented a few over the years but other than that consider me a "car driver". I did my research here when I was interested in a Spyder because the wife agreed it was safe enough for Socal driving (that's why she made me dump the 2 wheeler when we got married, she did want me dead). I read the bad sh*t and the good... I LEARNED what to expect and what to look for.....

You cant come from a car and get on a bike and expect it to be the SAME! It's not going to happen...

I also am not new to fixing my own stuff... I fully intend to do service where I can without BUDS. I have been stuck in the desert with a VW bug and fixed it with a bobby pin from my wife's purse (throttle cable broke). Many that know me call me a "McGiver". Not trying to brag but I do what I have to, to get something working again.

I have now met about 35 Spyder owners out here. Most of them would never even remove a panel from their bike. Unfortunately unlike a car, you wont be driving it for 200K miles and only pay for oil changes and some minor repairs! Service is needed on things more often than a car. You wont be able to just pull in anywhere and get it fixed (same for most other bikes), etc, etc, etc...... EXPECT IT! Don't be the uneducated buyer expecting it to work like a Toyota car!

Sorry I got on a rant there for a bit :yikes:

Bob
 
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I gotta say I agree with Magdave. While I agree that you can learn a ton of invaluable information from this site to tell people not to listen to what they read here just because you have not experienced the same thing is irresponsible.
 
It's nice to have a little mix on the forum of naysayers and those who love and cherish Joseph-Armand. :roflblack:
 
If I felt as bad as you and a few others on here I would of left long ago, and I certainly wouldn't be wasting my time on this forum. We all make foolish decisions in life, but it's time to let it go. Beating yourself up over your foolish purchase day after day on here has to be taking a toll on you and your family It's a learning experience. Let it go and move on to your next life experience. Smile and be happy.
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I try to push this point every chance I get...this is a great site and much like a doctors office. You find more folks ailing and looking for help, cures, and solutions then happy healthy ryders. But they are all there and would add one word of caution as well...to those coming from some nice comfortable air-conditioned car, you will now be sitting on your engine all 998cc's and over 100hp's you will feel and hear everything that goes on there. You are not going to get 80 mpg's, your tires will not last 50,000 miles abd your oil changes will not take 10 min's...but you will not find a better ryde or a better bunch of people to help you..!! :thumbup:
Been riding 52 years.... never had a bike with the issues the 2013 has.... so you can write me off as a newbe.... if ya wanna... Spyderlovers is a GREAT site, and LOTs of information!!!!! but there is the good with the bad.... it ain't all cherries in the spyder world. Lot's of good folks here!!!!!
 
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Your missing the point here. This forum is great! Good people with great views and the gathering of info is what it's all about, good and bad! If all of us complainers left what would you guy's read about? Everybody has issues and i'm glad you have none with your bike maybe someday mine will be fixed to. I'm really looking forward to posting about great rides and trips on my Spyder but if you would like us to leave i'm sure I can get Lamont to cancel my user name and i'll be gone... thanks and enjoy.

:agree: Agree totally. I for one would lose interest real quick here if all I read from people were sworn testimonials of how wonderful their Spyders are....BORING! I want to learn what ALL others are experiencing, what I may expect to experience down the road, and what the solutions are/were! In addition, we need the complainers because it will be because of them that BRP might wake up and see they better take some action before they lose more sales. This is the World Wide Web folks. And BRP is probably wishing Al Gore never invented it (chuckle, chuckle)
 
SL's my first forum experience

My relationship to all things Spyder has brought me sooooo much joy, pleasure, yep sometimes :banghead::banghead:..this may come a a shock but sometimes LIFE JUST SUCKS...even for me...When I got the "crazy" (as judged by sooooo many others) to go cageless .. that eventually led me to Spyderlovers (being very leery of forums--the negative rumors abound)..I lurked for awhile and then decided this was the best place for me .. a total novice in the world of Spyders/motorcycles .. As I understand and still believe a forum is for ALL of us...the Good, Bad .. novice, experienced..mechanical, non-mechanical...
Now when it gets UGLY and an attack turns to personal...judging another person's comments as "just not RIGHT"...I have an opinion, you have an opinion...? what makes mine RIGHT and yours WRONG?? Respect for the individual and willingness to at least listen to another opinion (dang I just might learn something...) is one of the principal's I live by...So I will always be on Spyderlovers and when the attacks become personal then I just skip that post...cause you know what? I walk not in that individual's shoes..but I do walk in mine and I do not have to give any personal energy to a situation that I am not living..and really have no "dog in the hunt"...empathy I can have...answers? probably not...listening ear? absolutely. I find that most folks just want someone to reallllly listen...not really expecting you to "fix" the situation...but please just listen without judgment...now if you ask me for my opinion or input...then yep I've got an opinion and I will share it...just remember it doesn't make it RIGHT...just my opinion.
28' degrees and I see blue skies...so headed out for a weekend of ryding...the season is coming to a close for my ryding...:(
 
One of the best posts I've read in a long while. And another reason why you are such a dear and respected friend.


Spot on Karyl. :thumbup:




My relationship to all things Spyder has brought me sooooo much joy, pleasure, yep sometimes :banghead::banghead:..this may come a a shock but sometimes LIFE JUST SUCKS...even for me...When I got the "crazy" (as judged by sooooo many others) to go cageless .. that eventually led me to Spyderlovers (being very leery of forums--the negative rumors abound)..I lurked for awhile and then decided this was the best place for me .. a total novice in the world of Spyders/motorcycles .. As I understand and still believe a forum is for ALL of us...the Good, Bad .. novice, experienced..mechanical, non-mechanical...
Now when it gets UGLY and an attack turns to personal...judging another person's comments as "just not RIGHT"...I have an opinion, you have an opinion...? what makes mine RIGHT and yours WRONG?? Respect for the individual and willingness to at least listen to another opinion (dang I just might learn something...) is one of the principal's I live by...So I will always be on Spyderlovers and when the attacks become personal then I just skip that post...cause you know what? I walk not in that individual's shoes..but I do walk in mine and I do not have to give any personal energy to a situation that I am not living..and really have no "dog in the hunt"...empathy I can have...answers? probably not...listening ear? absolutely. I find that most folks just want someone to reallllly listen...not really expecting you to "fix" the situation...but please just listen without judgment...now if you ask me for my opinion or input...then yep I've got an opinion and I will share it...just remember it doesn't make it RIGHT...just my opinion.
28' degrees and I see blue skies...so headed out for a weekend of ryding...the season is coming to a close for my ryding...:(
 
Midnightbreeze50 here , just read all the threads and replys, I just want everyone to know how HAPPY I am with my SPYDER 2013, it is a blast to ride, I feel like a kid again, Im a Maintenance Mechanic / welder /electrican/ pipe fitter, and this spyder is a blast, anything will break down that is mechanical, is is the nature of the beast , good preventive maintenance is critical, and even then it can still break down , so what i want to say is have fun with your SPYDER, do your maintenance and hopefully you wont break down , sure the machine has faults , it was and still is designed by humans, if we were perfect it would be to, so just relax and ride Baby RIDE!!!!!

:agree::agree::agree: When can we have a beer or two?. If not a cup of tea or just a nice talk.
 
Not to change the subject, but I just clicked the "me too" icon for the murphybrown comment in this thread and up came a "me too" with the thumbs down icon, shouldn't it be a thumbs up?....Or did I just send the wrong message.:opps:
 
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