RudyB
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Re pulling to right
Had the same problem until I put continental on the front problem solved
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Are Spyders super sensitive to road crown?
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Hey Rudy, as it stands, no one can read your post above unless they click Thanks AND Like first, & most of the cynics here will not do that, cos they see it as being a low effort to try & improve your stats, even if it was just a miss-typed entry!! :shocked:
You could help restore your reputation & credibility by editing the post above & removing the 'Require thanks to see content' & 'Require Like to see content' triggers (they are in tick-boxes in Miscellaneous Options under the text field when you are in the edit post screen, you need to UN-check them both....) :thumbup:
You could help restore your reputation & credibility by editing the post above & removing the 'Require thanks to see content' & 'Require Like to see content' triggers (they are in tick-boxes in Miscellaneous Options under the text field when you are in the edit post screen, you need to UN-check them both....) :thumbup:
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Slowpoke387
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Whats with the having to click the like button sudenly? Oh wait isee it now. Pete i had to click on Like to see yours lol, love the irony 
Edit: Just checked my settings and suddenly mine was checked too. Software glitch?
Edit: Just checked my settings and suddenly mine was checked too. Software glitch?
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Once someone clicks on them slowpoke, accidentally or otherwise, they become the default for every post in the rest of the thread until someone else UN-selects them!! That's why both your post and mine showed up with the Like requirement - I just didn't look past the first Thanks bit & probably should have.... 
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But, between us both, we've now removed that need for Thanks & Like for any following posters (hopefully anyway!) Still, I notice that at this stage, it appears not too many have been interested enough to both Thank & Like RudyB's post... & while he can't see that he's 'hidden the content' of his post (cos it's HIS, he doesn't hafta Thank or Like, so it all looks fine to him... ) he obviously hasn't looked back at the thread & read on any further either! :shocked: I sent him a PM that he should get to read eventually... That Might get some result, or maybe a Mod/Admin type could edit his post so we can all see it? :dontknow:
pps: But, between us both, we've now removed that need for Thanks & Like for any following posters (hopefully anyway!) Still, I notice that at this stage, it appears not too many have been interested enough to both Thank & Like RudyB's post... & while he can't see that he's 'hidden the content' of his post (cos it's HIS, he doesn't hafta Thank or Like, so it all looks fine to him... ) he obviously hasn't looked back at the thread & read on any further either! :shocked: I sent him a PM that he should get to read eventually... That Might get some result, or maybe a Mod/Admin type could edit his post so we can all see it? :dontknow:
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Easy Rider
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This is just stupid......and those "options" should be removed.
And maybe at the same time the "ride" that you put in your profile could be displayed too. :shocked:
I bring THAT up again because several times this week there have been posts made to a "non-model specific" sub-forum in which the poster did NOT show his ride in his signature. It appears that more users do NOT show it than those that do.
south GA Farm Boy
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Federal tires on front of RT Limited
I ordered the Federal tires, and they do seem better than the Kenda's. Both of the new Federal tires have some flat places on them and still shake my handbars, and vibrate at certain speeds. They both balanced out with very little weights1 I would like to get two new tires that were round. This makes 7 tires on my 2016 RT Limited with only 1800 miles on it! Where can I buy some smooth round tires? Not on E-bay, the last 2 sets came off E-bay!
I ordered the Federal tires, and they do seem better than the Kenda's. Both of the new Federal tires have some flat places on them and still shake my handbars, and vibrate at certain speeds. They both balanced out with very little weights1 I would like to get two new tires that were round. This makes 7 tires on my 2016 RT Limited with only 1800 miles on it! Where can I buy some smooth round tires? Not on E-bay, the last 2 sets came off E-bay!
Easy Rider
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Sometimes cheaper turns out to be more expensive in the long run.
Have you considered visiting a REAL tire shop......where hopefully they will inspect new ones not only for balance but for roundness and true ???
Slowpoke387
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This is getting ridiculous tbh. The balancing issue with Spyders, i mean cmon these are basic wheels and basic tires, why the hell are so many having balancing issues? What gives? Ive never read about so many tire balancing problems with any vehicle as i have here.
No problems with pulling to the right on crowned roads
For what it's worth, I've experienced no wandering or pulling on any kind of road. 2014 RTL; nothing at all done to the wheels, tires or suspension. Keep air pressure within specs. When I first got it, after riding 2-wheelers for decades, the Spyder experience took a little getting used to, but having learned to ride it with confidence I don't feel it is twitchy, light, heavy or any of the things reported here.
Stock Kenda's (which are great tires in my experience with them on my travel trailer). Smooth as silk.
For what it's worth, I've experienced no wandering or pulling on any kind of road. 2014 RTL; nothing at all done to the wheels, tires or suspension. Keep air pressure within specs. When I first got it, after riding 2-wheelers for decades, the Spyder experience took a little getting used to, but having learned to ride it with confidence I don't feel it is twitchy, light, heavy or any of the things reported here.
Stock Kenda's (which are great tires in my experience with them on my travel trailer). Smooth as silk.
Easy Rider
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Because some people don't understand that all tire defects can NOT be fixed by balancing.
And given your post, maybe you don't understand that either.
south GA Farm Boy
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tire balancing and laser alignments
If you have a Spyder that doesn't pull to the right, and the handbars doesn't shake, count your blessings! I had a 2013 RT Limited ahead of this new 2016 RT Limited, and it was as smooth as glass on the road with no pulling, no shaking, just great smooth riding with kenda tires from the factory on the front! Other than the heat issues, and the hot foot on the right side it was great, but I wanted the 3 cylinder engine, 6 speed transmission that everyone on this thread believes in! Well, 3 sets of front tires (Kenda, V-rubber, and Federal), 2 rolo laser alignments, one new wheel bearing, two dealers checking it out, one for a full week, rear tire off and balanced, rear belt tension set with laser, Buds set 3 times by dealers, front tires balanced 3 times, new brake rotor ordered and tested on right front, and it is still shaking and pulling and I have personally paid for 90% of those things! So I am sorry, if you don't understand what these Spyder riders are writing about! Count your blessing, believe me I know!
If you have a Spyder that doesn't pull to the right, and the handbars doesn't shake, count your blessings! I had a 2013 RT Limited ahead of this new 2016 RT Limited, and it was as smooth as glass on the road with no pulling, no shaking, just great smooth riding with kenda tires from the factory on the front! Other than the heat issues, and the hot foot on the right side it was great, but I wanted the 3 cylinder engine, 6 speed transmission that everyone on this thread believes in! Well, 3 sets of front tires (Kenda, V-rubber, and Federal), 2 rolo laser alignments, one new wheel bearing, two dealers checking it out, one for a full week, rear tire off and balanced, rear belt tension set with laser, Buds set 3 times by dealers, front tires balanced 3 times, new brake rotor ordered and tested on right front, and it is still shaking and pulling and I have personally paid for 90% of those things! So I am sorry, if you don't understand what these Spyder riders are writing about! Count your blessing, believe me I know!
Newbie here..... (on 3 wheels/this forum anyways)
With quite a bit of experience in powersports, prior to purchase I too was concerned with regards to how 3 wheels would "hold the road."
(We have crowned roads here, albeit subtle for the most part. Yet the road contour seems to have no noticeable effects.)
I must be one of the lucky ones... Just seems to drive like it's on rails!
(I honestly never even think about steering input etc., just does exactly as I think.)
Haven't had a single situation yet where I notice any kind of drift whatsoever.
Maybe it's the model and/or the drag bars? Maybe the laser alignment, maybe the new tires....
And it could be that I spent 35 years tearing around on snowmobile trails and riding sport bikes.
Handlebar design may have a lot to do with riding experience/road feedback. Narrower swept-back bars (unlike mine) may tend to make rider pull on them instead of pushing? And I'd wager that could leave the driver fighting the road & crown, instead of not noticing it. ~ Can't tell you why, but I just knew the drag bars were going to be the right choice for me. And that's why I ended up with the model I chose. They came stock on the unit.
As for tracking etc:
The only time I think mine exhibits "sub-par" handling is if you do a quick subtle left/right "jitter" on the bars which creates a slight wobble, that disappears almost instantly. (caused by low tire pressure specs.)
(And from reading these forums, I now know the reason for the weird vibration that I've only encountered several times in my first few hundred miles. Belt vibration. ~ Thought it was the road lol.)
The other day (without even thinking about it), after showing a friend my new ride as I drove off I gave a 2 <thumbs up> with both hands out like an eagle, high in the air, maybe @ 50 mph coming out of a very subtle LH turn? Wasn't even thinking about it, wasn't planned. Just a reaction. (Only sharing this because that's how confident this particular machine tracks. And no, I don't make it a practice of doing this. But I do frequently find myself at slower speeds "one-handing" the bar/throttle side around town on banked roads with almost 0 effort.) ~ Yep, I'm "old school" & use my left hands as secondary directional/stop indicators.
FWIW: I didn't buy a spyder with the idea of replacing a motorcycle. More along the lines of it being a "snowmowheel." (That's what I actually call it/use to describe it to friends.)
To me, it handles like an almost perfectly setup performance trail sled on good groomed snow. ~ And there are major similarities as to how it is driven: Body position,, steering and leaning in particular.
All I can add is: @ 52 yrs. old, I find my F3-S (paddle shift model) more fun to drive than any dirt bike, sport-bike, snowmobile, ATV or watercraft I've ever owned/demo'd. Maybe I'm showing my age?
With quite a bit of experience in powersports, prior to purchase I too was concerned with regards to how 3 wheels would "hold the road."
(We have crowned roads here, albeit subtle for the most part. Yet the road contour seems to have no noticeable effects.)
I must be one of the lucky ones... Just seems to drive like it's on rails!
(I honestly never even think about steering input etc., just does exactly as I think.)
Haven't had a single situation yet where I notice any kind of drift whatsoever.
Maybe it's the model and/or the drag bars? Maybe the laser alignment, maybe the new tires....
And it could be that I spent 35 years tearing around on snowmobile trails and riding sport bikes.
Handlebar design may have a lot to do with riding experience/road feedback. Narrower swept-back bars (unlike mine) may tend to make rider pull on them instead of pushing? And I'd wager that could leave the driver fighting the road & crown, instead of not noticing it. ~ Can't tell you why, but I just knew the drag bars were going to be the right choice for me. And that's why I ended up with the model I chose. They came stock on the unit.
As for tracking etc:
The only time I think mine exhibits "sub-par" handling is if you do a quick subtle left/right "jitter" on the bars which creates a slight wobble, that disappears almost instantly. (caused by low tire pressure specs.)
(And from reading these forums, I now know the reason for the weird vibration that I've only encountered several times in my first few hundred miles. Belt vibration. ~ Thought it was the road lol.)
The other day (without even thinking about it), after showing a friend my new ride as I drove off I gave a 2 <thumbs up> with both hands out like an eagle, high in the air, maybe @ 50 mph coming out of a very subtle LH turn? Wasn't even thinking about it, wasn't planned. Just a reaction. (Only sharing this because that's how confident this particular machine tracks. And no, I don't make it a practice of doing this. But I do frequently find myself at slower speeds "one-handing" the bar/throttle side around town on banked roads with almost 0 effort.) ~ Yep, I'm "old school" & use my left hands as secondary directional/stop indicators.
FWIW: I didn't buy a spyder with the idea of replacing a motorcycle. More along the lines of it being a "snowmowheel." (That's what I actually call it/use to describe it to friends.)
To me, it handles like an almost perfectly setup performance trail sled on good groomed snow. ~ And there are major similarities as to how it is driven: Body position,, steering and leaning in particular.
All I can add is: @ 52 yrs. old, I find my F3-S (paddle shift model) more fun to drive than any dirt bike, sport-bike, snowmobile, ATV or watercraft I've ever owned/demo'd. Maybe I'm showing my age?
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007james
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In case you don't have a Belt Tensioner installed on your 2016, you might want to visit the Belt Tensioner threads here. My 2016 RT Limited has 1600 miles on it, and a Belt Tensioner along with Lazer Alignment and wheels balanced have reuced my shake, along with using the SOFT setting on the Air Ride Suspension. Belt vibration on these Triples are complicated. My 2012 didn't have belt vibration that I noticed.
Slowpoke387
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I dont recall ever posting that balancing tires should be the cure. I understand it perfectly. Im not one of the ones complaining about out of balance tires. Its the one thing our machine doesnt do. Ours does not shake. My post was in reference to all the complaints ive read here, meaning me questioning why there so many "defective" tires/shaking tires. Ive never seen so many complaints about shaking front tires that cant be figured out after alignments/balancing/replacement tires. Now that ive spelled it out clearly...gotta love how people assume.
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Counting my blessings that this one tracks like it's on rails!
On thing I did notice was a TON of balancing weights on the rear rim.... Like about 9 big squares, maybe more. (all in a strip) Going to make a count and mark them just in case....
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Slowpoke387
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you are def one of the lucky ones. I can tell you our drifting is not rider input. In fact if i gently let go of the bars on a smooth crowned road, it immediately drifts to the right, and it would def ride right off the road if i let it. Flat roads are fine. Hence the entire reason for my original post here. Coming from two wheels where this doesnt happen i just needed to know if this is just the way these things are. And the answers i get are mixed tbh. Ya i know, the worst offenders are bike people. I get that. New tires will be ordered and after that im done complaining, one way or the other.
Easy Rider
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Thanks for the clarification.
When you DON'T spell it out clearly, some assumptions are pretty normal.
Two things then:
Forums like this are MAGNETS for the few people who have difficult problems.
The folks who have NO complaints have no incentive to come here and say that so many problems LOOK larger than they ARE.
The 3 wheel stance of the Spyder makes small tire irregularities seem large, especially for those folks who haven't "gotten used to" the different riding feel yet.
Easy Rider
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YOu are absolutely wrong about that.
IF.....your brain didn't automatically correct for the crown with a little body lean or shift in body weight, your two wheeled bike absolutely would track to the right too.
Slowpoke387
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youre def right about that. I guess the body English is different with three wheels. Ive tried all kinds of weight shifting, shape shifting, magic spells, pleading, bargaining, lol. No success yet :banghead:
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