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RinconRyder said:
CBS interviewed a teacher (I forgot his location but believe it was in rural CO) who stuffs a Glock 9mm in his boot (with District permission). I just wonder if he is prepared to challenge an AR-15 with his little tiny Glock.
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Depends on the situation. In a direct shootout like on Gunsmoke, it would depend on who's faster and has better aim.

But in a school or home invasion against a single bad guy, the 9mm user would be in cover until he can get a good shot. Like when the rifle user turns around or moves. Any gun is better than no gun.
 
Mad Mac said:
I've got to chime in here and I know you guy's are going to think I'm crazy and maybe I am but here goes. Along with the school resource officer, their were 3 more deputies that responded while the shooter was still active. Now the way I see it, they are trained to use "tactics" to access the school or they should have been familiar with this particular school, but nobody went in, until two or three city police officers arrived and they went in and the shooting had stopped. Now I worked for a Podunk department here in Wisc. and our deputies go thru "Active Shooter" training at the local high school twice a year along with the city police, EMS, and fire departments. I would hope all sheriffs departments and city police throughout this nation would have gone thru some sort of similar training with all the school shootings we have had in this country, and when you are paid to do a job, do it! Mac
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Hi Mac!
I've heard this report also...
I'm not sure if it's been verified as true or not.
Let's see where it ends up... :thumbup:

(My gut is telling me that it's just like a pair of eight year-olds standing in front of a broken window... They're pointing at each other , and yelling, "HE did it!" )
 
The statement keeps getting thrown out there: "Someone with a handgun is NO match for an assault rifle."
With proper training: it'd be an easy kill for the man with the short weapon! nojoke
And if you're NOT morally prepared to wade into the fight: you have no business being anywhere near it: armed or not!
These mutts are all cowards. They've attacked a School because they know that nobody will be shooting back.
(Short tactics discussion...)
You know exactly where he is, and what he's doing...
He knows nothing about your presence, or your state or preparedness...

QUIETLY: you approach from the mutt's blind-side, and end him! :thumbup:
Easy-Peasey! :D


If Law Enforcement Officers stayed outside: they should give back EVERY nickel that they ever took as salary, from the taxpayers. :gaah:
 
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bet you did not know this, according to the FBI in 2014.... there were 5 times more lives taken with knives than all rifles... so now I guess its time to ban knives...
 
Bob Denman said:
But since you brought up timeframes: should the First Amendment be reviewed and modified? after all; the Framers of our Constitution never envisioned the speed at which communication occurs today. :dontknow:
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The Constitution does not recognize the speed or technology of communication. What is your point?
 
Machinegunner said:
The NRA is not the problem.
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Virtually everyone agrees the NRA is a significant problem. They buy Congresspeople to explicitly prevent anti-gun legislation. They value your right to own guns over the lives of your children. They represent but a small fraction of gun owners. They are evil.
 
PrairieSpyder said:
Depends on the situation. In a direct shootout like on Gunsmoke, it would depend on who's faster and has better aim.

But in a school or home invasion against a single bad guy, the 9mm user would be in cover until he can get a good shot. Like when the rifle user turns around or moves. Any gun is better than no gun.
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Street gunfights, as depicted on Hollywood Westerns, did not happen very often. Most killings in the Old West were ambushes of one sort or the other. But if a shooter is equipped with a semi-auto and isn't boldly walking down the hallways of the building he has a good advantage should the handgun holder make himself known. Given the choice, which gun would you prefer in a shootout? No need to answer.

As far as your "any gun" statement goes, you have got it all wrong. Virtually every police force agrees they do not want civilians running around a shooting site with guns. You likely would be mistaken by the cops or another civilian for the bad guy and suffer the consequences. Or you might shoot an innocent person you thought was the bad guy. Those scenes are highly chaotic and happen almost instantly.

And, everybody seems to zero in on school shootings but that isn't the only target here. How do all the arguments work when the site is a general gathering of people as in Las Vegas?

No, the only true solution to mass shootings is to ban the weapons used. That leaves plenty of types for hunting, target shooting and self defense.
 
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