Anyone want to wake up BRP?

[Tom in NM]

I think I'd be a fool getting back on the same spyder knowing that it is defective and the manufacture nor the dealer can diagnose the problem to fix. Anyway I bought a new bike and I think replacing my bike with a new one is more than reasonable considering the fact my current bike could be used to research and diagnose the problem for the safety of all spyder owners.

Bun-1, I think your feelings are completely understandable. When everything is said and done, your level of happiness is what you live with, nobody else.

As for feeling like a fool, I know I wouldn't, but what I feel is not important. I have done plenty of things where I ended up feeling foolish. Now days, I work hard and feel successful if I think something I have done turns out to be "just adequate".

And thanks for keeping the rest of us Spyder riders in mind. I for one, am keeping you in mind and hoping you get back to where you were before this all happened.

Tom

 

[gladdy's spyder]

I'm new what's this about fires?

Just joined you all a week ago, what's this about fire. My Spyder does get hot at the area where my right leg is but we thought that was just the nature of the beast. My husbands Harley is hot too, I've always complained about it so thought this is just my motorcycles are. What causes the fires??

 

[WaltH]

so my question to you is what will they repair other than what they can tell is burn. So the problem still could possibly exsist and I could possibly get hurt this time. I'm sure if they were so certain that they can fix it and assure that it would be safe they wouldn't mind taking it back and replacing it. They could use it as a demo but why burn a potential customer when they already burnt me :lecturef_smilie:. My point is how do you fix a problem that has yet to be diagnosed due to the fact that they could not send a BRP tech down to identify the problem since the bike was saved.

They did not inspect my Spyder either. Mine was a total, total loss. There was nothing to look at. I wish they had inspected yours. It might tell us something. Three or four of the fires were a complete loss. Some of the partial loss fires were also so badly burned that they may not have yielded much information. Yours was probably the best one to look at because you got to the fire quickly. I cannot figure out what BRP is thinking.

When your Spyder is repaired it will be just as safe, or not safe, as another brand new one. They cannot repair the cause of the fire because it is unknown. I believe every Spyder coming off the production line has the same chance as my original Spyder had of burning to the ground. Spyder#2 is not inherently safer than Spyder#1. However, I have taken some steps to make Spyder#2 safer in my hands.

I have installed a Kuryakyn breather tank to collect the oil from the crankcase breather tube. This keeps the oil out of the airbox, and thereby, it is not being splattered all over the front of the engine. Spyder#1 had quiet a bit of oil where it should not have been (36,500 miles). This was potentially a source of fire material.

I push the gas filler nozzle down into the tank at least four to six inches. I stop filling the tank at the first shut-off. I do not try to top-off the tank. Hopefully, this will keep raw gasoline out of the carbon canister. As you can tell from reading recent posts, the carbon canister is a major, major suspect in the fires.

I intend to take further steps including possibly eliminating the carbon canister and rerouting the vent tube from the filler cap area to the ground.

I believe these steps are making me safer. I will not be comfortable, however, until BRP finds the real cause of the fires. I will be very happy to make whatever changes they recommend.

Harleys sold outside of California do not have carbon canisters. If you accidentally over fill the gas tank the excess runs down a vent tube to the ground.