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Anyone else have a battery that's losing charge? '23 RT Ltd

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My 2023 RT Limited battery won't keep a charge after sitting for three weeks without starting. I have already replaced it with a Noco Lithium which works great as long as it is run on a weekly basis. However, if it sits three or four weeks it slowly loses charge. I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this battery drain problem?
 
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Check this thread out, maybe do some tests??

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?149565-Here-s-how-to-do-a-Parasitic-current-test

Or, just type 'parasitic' into the Search field up toward the Top Right of the page; tick the 'Search Titles Only' box in the drop-down list that'll appear below the Search field as you type; submit the Search by clicking on the little Magnifying glass; and do a little reading. ;)

As you can see from the Threads going back to 2012, there's not too much that can go on with your Spyder that hasn't already been asked and often answered, so it always pays to do a little searching first, especially before starting a new thread. :thumbup:
 
If you're not riding it a good bit, then you need to put it on a maintainer to keep it charged.

If it's setting for three weeks, then you only ride it a short distance then the battery is never getting fully charged back up.
 
I did add the power outlet from Lamonster with the USB ports, there is nothing left plugged in. I will do a parasitic drain test later today.
 
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I did a parasitic test before lunch, unhooked everything except for the main battery cables. I have an 11.53 amp draw with everything off. Pulled all fuses one at a time, the only fuse that made a small difference was the amplifier, the draw dropped to 11.47. I guess it will be off to the dealer on Monday. The only fuse I didn't pull was the 80-amp alternator fuse, I will leave that to them!
 
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The Spyder and Ryker seem to have a fair amount of parasitic draw. Usually, this is measured in milliamps. If you're talking amps here, then something is really sucking the life out of your battery. I'm surprised it goes more than a few days with that kind of draw.

Yours may be more than average, but they all suffer from it.
 
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Took it to the dealer on Tuesday, they did a parasitic draw test and confirmed my findings of a steady 11.53 amp draw. I contacted them late Friday afternoon, and they still have not been able to find what is causing it. However, they did tell me this is a problem they have found on some side-by-sides and the charging system has been the problem. I will see what happens next week.
 
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Took it to the dealer on Tuesday, they did a parasitic draw test and confirmed my findings of a steady 11.53 amp draw. I contacted them late Friday afternoon, and they still have not been able to find what is causing it. However, they did tell me this is a problem they have found on some side-by-sides and the charging system has been the problem. I will see what happens next week.

My guess would be a bad diode in the alternator. The easiest way to tell would be to unhook the positive wire going to the alternator and see if it goes away. Thats how we did it years ago.

Keep us posted.
 
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Any updates? I got a 2012 that I've already changed the stator & regulator on, fitted a new Yuasa battery from the Motorsport store, and the battery will not last 10 min before it dies... Nothing seems to be working! I NEED HELLLLLLLLP??
 
Any updates? I got a 2012 that I've already changed the stator & regulator on, fitted a new Yuasa battery from the Motorsport store, and the battery will not last 10 min before it dies... Nothing seems to be working! I NEED HELLLLLLLLP??
10 Min, my God, that is a major problem going on there. Have you added any aftermarket things on your bike? With that kind of amperage draw I can't believe you don't see smoke! How long has this been going on?
 
Any updates? I got a 2012 that I've already changed the stator & regulator on, fitted a new Yuasa battery from the Motorsport store, and the battery will not last 10 min before it dies... Nothing seems to be working! I NEED HELLLLLLLLP??
Conduct a parasitic draw test.
 
Any updates? I got a 2012 that I've already changed the stator & regulator on, fitted a new Yuasa battery from the Motorsport store, and the battery will not last 10 min before it dies... Nothing seems to be working! I NEED HELLLLLLLLP??
So Studio, are you talking about a parasitic discharge when the bike is off, or are you saying that the battery isn't charging when the bike is running? Which makes more sense to me being that you replaced the stator and regulator for some reason.
 
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Yes, the bike won't charge the battery. I had someone work on it and they suggested to change the stator and regulator, so I did that and still the bike wouldn't last 1 week and I use it every day. I'm getting impatient, not sure what to do. I've changed all the fuses under the seat, checked all the relays... I just don't know what to do anymore. Also, I had bought 4 batteries from AutoZone, then I got the last one from the dealer, a Yuasa, and still have same issue... Also BRP customer service sucks - ONE OF THE WORST! They don't wanna service my Spyder cuz its older than 10 years. What kind of BS is that? NO AFTERMARKET ADD ONS!

NEED A MECHANIC - SOMEONE WITH SPYDER EXPERTISE ASAP! I'M IN CALIFORNIA, LOS ANGELES - ANYONE KNOW OF ANYONE?
 
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OK. So now we have that straight. I had a 2012 for 10 years, let's get started.

Back at the battery. On the positive terminal, there needs to be three, large, red wires connected. Two of them join together into a single terminal connector. One of those wires goes to the starter solenoid and the other goes to the main fuse box under the seat. The third red wire is the positive wire from your voltage regulator. Let's call that the charging wire. Sometimes the charging wire can slip under it all and hide from you and not get put back on. All three wires need connected to the positive battery terminal.

On the negative battery terminal, there needs to be two black wires. Normally they are joined together into a single connector, but I've seen them separated. One is your main ground and the other is the negative wire from your voltage regulator. Both need to be connected to the negative battery terminal.

Back on the red charging wire a few inches forward of the battery, there is a rectangular assembly built into the wire harness itself. Looks strange being there. There's a fuse inside of that. A 60 amp fuse. It's been so long I can't even remember what it looks like, but check that. Can't charge if it's blown.

If all looks good, and I assume you have a multimeter, go back to the regulator and unplug the two-wire harness connector. That's the other end of the wires at the battery. Set your meter for DC voltage and read the two pins in the harness plug. You should have battery voltage. Read the positive wire to chassis ground. You should have battery voltage. if you don't, then there's still an open someplace in the circuit or bad ground. If a bad ground is suspected, the most common place is that main chassis ground under the seat on the right side. Clean it up and tighten it up.

If you're still ok there, plug the two wire connector back in and start up the motor. Check battery terminal voltage, either under the seat or on the battery itself with the engine at 4000RPM. Should have at least 13 - 14 volts DC. Steady or slowly rising, but not dropping. There's no spec in the manual for regulator output voltage with the plug disconnected.

If needed check stator output voltage. Unplug the three wire connector at the regulator, start up the engine. Pins 1 - 2, 2 - 3, and 1 - 3 voltages should all be about 60 volts AC min. Be sure to switch the meter from DC to AC.

If the stator or regulator look out of spec, where did you get the parts? If that all looks good, then you may have a huge current draw that the charging system simply can't keep up with while the bike is running at lower RPMs, because it’s a magneto, not an alternator. The DPS motor comes mind. You can start that search by removing the 40a DPS motor fuse under the seat - fuse position 5 - and see if that improves anything. Enough for now.
 
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