Any thoughts regarding this fueling question?

[SpyderMarkus]

I've rode my new :spyder2: exclusively since it's purchase on 22 Aug, now sitting @ 1040 miles. Since then, my Honda Shadow 750 has been neglected, so today I pulled it out the garage for a long ride. Afterwards, I stopped for gas to fuel her up. Usually I put 87 Octane fuel in my Shadow and decided to put 92 Octane fuel in the :spyder2: this time. After filling up with 2 gallons of fuel, I 'realized' :gaah: I probably didn't get much high grade fuel that I paid for. Majority of the pumps in my area have one hose pumps with fuel grade selection buttons. If the previous purchaser used low grade fuel and the next purchaser gets high grade fuel, how much low grade fuel is in the hose prior to the switch. With a purcahse of 2 gallons, I wouldn't be surprised if most, if not all, was low grade fuel. Even for a :spyder2: purchase of 4-5 gallons, at least a third would be low grade fuel. Besides the cost, I wonder if this affects engine performance or mileage? Also, does anyone have any idea how much fuel the typical hose holds? Just wondering....

Any thoughts? :chat:

 

[harrypottar]

According to the American Petroleum Institute the gas-pump hose typically retains about one third of a gallon of fuel. So when you pump a couple gallons of 93-octane premium after the previous customer pumped 87-octane regular, your fuel load would be diluted (not to mention overpriced).

I don't think diluting your premium fuel with a little regular will harm your motorcycle, especially if you always select the highest octane rating available. However, next time you're filling up you may want to get in line behind the driver with the highest-performance car in the station.

However I don't worry about its only gas and we burn it anyway.

harry

 

[boborgera]

I always use 92/93 i don't worry about if there might be a few oz of 87 in the mix.
But on page 14 of the October AMA Magazine there's an interesting article about residual fuel [E15] left over in the hose.

 

[NancysToy]

15 feet of 3/4" hose (from the valve in the pump to the end of the nozzle) would hold only 0.34 gallons. In reality the fuel hose may be even smaller. Don't worry about it.

 

[Oldmanzues]

I am very concerned about E 85 from the same pump. The Government says that problem can be overcome by pumping at least 4 gallons in the tank of a M/C or what ever.
Oldmanzues

 

[SpyderMarkus]

Thanks for responses... seems like there would be more fuel in the hose, but I guess not. Thanks again for the info!! :thumbup:

 

[BajaRon]

I try to find a station with individual hoses. That's the best way to go.

 

[boborgera]

I try to find a station with individual hoses. That's the best way to go.

No such animal, At least In Jersey and any station i stopped at in PA, NY.
There all blended at the pump, The stations only have two tanks in the ground, One has regular The other has premium, Then its mixed at the pump to achieve the desired octane.

 

[NancysToy]

No such animal, At least In Jersey and any station i stopped at in PA, NY.
There all blended at the pump, The stations only have two tanks in the ground, One has regular The other has premium, Then its mixed at the pump to achieve the desired octane.

There are a few around, but they are scarce...posibly even more scarce than stations selling fuel without ethanol.

 

[Bob Denman]

Well I found some high-test coffee to put in me this morning: 20% extra caffeine... :shocked: (Chock full Of Nuts)
I'm going for a RIDE!!!!! :yes::yes: After my head slows down!

 

[Cruzr Joe]

Well I found some high-test coffee to put in me this morning: 20% extra caffeine... :shocked: (Chock full Of Nuts)
I'm going for a RIDE!!!!! :yes::yes: After my head slows down!

Who gave Bob High Octane Coffee????, come on fess up. :dontknow::dontknow::dontknow:

 

[Mr. White]

I thought I read in the owners manual that 87 octane was okay. That is all I use...am I wrong? Poor BR1.

:spyder2:

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: If you run the cheap swill it won't hurt them; they just have more power and fuel economy left on the table... :thumbup:
Where's all of that buzzing coming from? :shocked:

 

[Mr. White]

Bob, how much is keosine these days? :clap:

:spyder2:

 

[Bob Denman]

Are you planning to set something on fire?? :shocked: :joke:

 

[boborgera]

Bob, how much is karosine these days? :clap:

:spyder2:

Kerosene, Don't know :dontknow: I stopped using it in my barn heaters years ago, I only use Off road Diesel dyed red [375@ Gal] in the heaters and in my Kubota 6800.,
Diesel doesn't smell [stink] like Kerosene when used in the heaters.:thumbup:

 

[Star Cruiser]

1/3 gallon= ~1.25 litres
The difference in price from Reg and Premium is 15 cents per liter. I guess I am giving away 15 - 20 cents on the fill IF I follow a regular gas user.
Good point though and one I didn't think about

Maybe I should start following the Performance machines and put in a litre at a time. Heck Pay for regular and get the Premium out of the hose before I stop and move on LOL. Lets see 20 1 litre fills per station would just about fill the tank. ROTFLMAO.

 

[harrypottar]

Most brand name stations like shell, mobile, BP normally have separate hose for grade types. The cheaper stations tend to have single hose. I fill the cars and trucks up at the cheaper stations But tend to try and find brand name gas for the spyder.

I too saw that the manual say 87 but recormend mid grade, since using mid grade there is a noticeable difference in performance and fuel Eco.

However as each fill up only lasts a mere 140 or so miles I don't let it worry me.

Harry