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Any suggestions on Keeping Warm?

Aerostich gear rocks. Get heated liners, gloves, and insoles. I have been wearing it for hundreds of thousands of miles. None better. Not cheap, but worth it.

Joe, I think John was asking which of the Aerostitch products he should be considering. Are you saying the heated liner will be adequate with his Joe Rocket Phoenix outer gear?
 
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Joe, I think John was asking which of the Aerostitch products he should be considering. Are you saying the heated liner will be adequate with his Joe Rocket Phoenix outer gear?

For a casual rider such as myself, I was thinking a Joe Rocket Survivor suit would be my first choice (but I can't seem to find one in my size anywhere -- it's out of stock everywhere). If not, I might have to pop for an Aerostich and in that case I would really like to know what KIND of Aerostich would be recommended. I was thinking the R3 Tactical would be enough because with the huge temperature variation here in the winter but I don't really know. Like I said, I don't want to make a $2000 mistake for self and wife. Or maybe a Firstgear Kilimanjaro with matching pants, but the one-piece seems to be a better choice where you can just take it off and stuff it in the Spyder while you walk around in street clothes.

I don't really like the Firstgear Thermosuit because (a) I like hi-viz whereas that suit is gray/black, and (b) it doesn't carry any armor -- which means I'd want to stay armored up underneath and that would kind of defeat the purpose. I don't know why anyone would want to wear black and gray colors on a motorcycle or Spyder. It's like camouflage so other drivers don't see you. No thanks.
 
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I wear my insulated carhartt coveralls with my rain gear when cold. If it warms up some I take off the rain gear. Not really great style, but keeps me toasty.
 
I don't really like the Firstgear Thermosuit because (a) I like hi-viz whereas that suit is gray/black, and (b) it doesn't carry any armor -- which means I'd want to stay armored up underneath and that would kind of defeat the purpose. I don't know why anyone would want to wear black and gray colors on a motorcycle or Spyder. It's like camouflage so other drivers don't see you. No thanks.

Okay. Maybe heated jacket liner is the way to go then.
 
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We ride all the time in variable temps. We have Venture heated jackets. Another trick of cool riding with a mesh jacket is to put the rain jacket on the outside of the mesh. It adds another layer of insulation between the wind layer and skin.

With temps like you are asking about, I would invest in heated gear. Being able to add and subtract heat with the push of a button makes comfort very easy to maintain. The reason we have Venture heated gear over other brands is because it is not bulky. It isn't an insulated jacket with electrics added. It is a thin jacket with high output heat. They also have a really nifty control system that doesn't require an external controller.
 
We ride all the time in variable temps. We have Venture heated jackets. Another trick of cool riding with a mesh jacket is to put the rain jacket on the outside of the mesh. It adds another layer of insulation between the wind layer and skin.

With temps like you are asking about, I would invest in heated gear. Being able to add and subtract heat with the push of a button makes comfort very easy to maintain. The reason we have Venture heated gear over other brands is because it is not bulky. It isn't an insulated jacket with electrics added. It is a thin jacket with high output heat. They also have a really nifty control system that doesn't require an external controller.

Good to know. https://www.ventureheat.com/motorcycle-heated-gear.html
 
Aerostich Darien light jacket, AD1 pants. Kanetsu electric liner. Works for me. Mesh in summer, unless a road trip. Then, cool vest and Darien with vents open. Gerbing gloves. Silk scarf. Toasty!
 
Start with good quality textile gear like Aerostitch, First Gear, Olympia, and Klim. A jacket with liner and overpants, with or without liners, should keep you warm on most winter days. On your RT I would think you would do okay with just adding heated jacket liners for really cold days, I found that the fairing on the RT did a good job of keeing my legs and hands protected. Another nice thing to have are Baker Air Wings, they really help to block the cold air.
 
For years, my wife and I have used Gerbing's heated jackets, vests, jacket liners, pant liners, and gloves either singly or in combination. Combined with a windproof outer layer (as noted, mesh jackets don't cut it unless you add a windproof outer layer such as a rain jacket), being able to adjust temperature by turning the thermostat knob beats layering/unlayering.

I'm just now adding surface mounted power ports to our F3T to make plugging in/unplugging easier. On the RTL, there might even be locations to mount the thermostat; I've had that setup on various Gold Wings and it's extra nice not to have to decide where to put the thermostat so you can reach it but it's out of the way.
 
I found the best winter gear to be the stuff sold for mountaineering.
Stay away from anything that is for motorcycling, they want more $$$$$ and give you crap in return.
Get the stuff that's waterproof, breathable and hurricane proof.
My Cabelas "guide wear" jacket is the BOMB over a nice down jacket.....layers work.
My ski pants (Gore-Tex) are waterproof, windproof and over my jogging pants they are also the BOMB.
My mitts are for skiing and my Spyder and since you don't need separate fingers they are …….the BOMB.
My boots are insulated neoprene rubber and with wool socks they are....the BOMB.
My skiing head sock under my helmet covering my mug and neck is …...the BOMB.
KISS..(Keep It Simple Stupid). I KISS my equipment and failure is almost nil.....making it....the BOMB. lol
My wife and I are by nature always cold; perhaps that's why the heat in Las Vegas doesn't bother us. However, the winter months here would be ideal for ryding if not for getting so cold all the time. Most places in the Southwest seem to run between 30 degrees in the morning and 60 in the afternoon. Also there are mountains out here where one could encounter a 30 degree variation just by the elevation. I realize these temperatures aren't even slightly cold for a lot of people, but they ARE cold for us. Our usual gear (Joe Rocket Phoenix mesh jackets) doesn't cut it even with layers underneath and I'm also not keen on long underwear since it becomes hot the minute you go anywhere inside. I'm wondering how others deal with these temperatures?

Part of our problem is sizing -- I'm 6'-4" and 200 and the wife is 5'-0" and 110, so it's always a challenge finding stuff that fits. We're also concerned both with staying warm and being safe, so one solution would be Aerostich suits in hi-viz that could be worn over street clothes. At $2000 for the two of us, though, the Aerostich would be a pretty expensive mistake if they don't solve the problem. There are also multiple versions of the Aerostich, so which one to choose? There's also a Joe Rocket Survivor suit out there that looks good and is much cheaper, but apparently nobody in the U.S. carries it in a tall or even large size.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
I wouldn’t buy mountaineering gear for an outer layer to wear on a motorcycle. I doubt any mountaineers hit 80 mph. Stick with Gortex or similar fabric for outer layers.
 
I found the best winter gear to be the stuff sold for mountaineering.
Stay away from anything that is for motorcycling, they want more $$$$$ and give you crap in return.
Get the stuff that's waterproof, breathable and hurricane proof.
My Cabelas "guide wear" jacket is the BOMB over a nice down jacket.....layers work.
My ski pants (Gore-Tex) are waterproof, windproof and over my jogging pants they are also the BOMB.
My mitts are for skiing and my Spyder and since you don't need separate fingers they are …….the BOMB.
My boots are insulated neoprene rubber and with wool socks they are....the BOMB.
My skiing head sock under my helmet covering my mug and neck is …...the BOMB.
KISS..(Keep It Simple Stupid). I KISS my equipment and failure is almost nil.....making it....the BOMB. lol

No armor in this set up tho right? I’m also looking for something for cooler weather riding and got a decent Bilt jacket for 120 at cycle gear but discovered the pocket for spine armor is tiny. Sedici has a nice 3 layer with 16 inch spine protection but the collar bothered my neck. I’m thinking of returning the built anyway though and seeing if I can’t make the Sedici collar work somehow.
 
Since you are in Las Vegas you can get what you need at Cycle Gear or at least get an idea. The Sedici 3 season jackets are pretty nice for the money. Look for one with the quilted liner and rain liner. They also have some nice waterproof pants. Combine these with the Hotwired heated gear and you should be warm.
 
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