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any plumbers out there? i need help

Bust it out and do it right. That does not even look like a trap, although it could be a jury-rigged, jobsite improvization. If it is a trap, it looks pretty deep. It is in your best interests, and for your safety, that you should have a plumber repair it and bring it up to code. No amount of money you save would be worth dying or having an explosion from sewer gas...or even just the nuisance from the odor.

Remember that you have more problems than just the gas, if this thing is leaking. The water isn't going down the drain pipe, it is going into the ground. Eventually it could cause settling or cause part of the floor to collapse if it becomes undermined. The empty "trap" is just a symptom. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised it there was no trap there at all, and the standing water before was a sign of a formerly plugged pipe. Now you may have rotted the pipe through...or the roots broke it further, allowing the formerly backed up water to leak out. I agree with the wisdom of pushing a camera through there. It's a good way to find out what is going on. This may just be the tip of the iceberg.
 
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it very seldom ever gets any water in it . the basement used to leak years ago , and the water would run to the drain, but i've corrected all that so it's basically there for that "just in case something breaks" scenario.
i'm just thinking there has to be an easier way, technology being what it is now. i'm a pretty good plumber myself, but i've never dealt with this before.
 
More than likely your trap is cracked/broke. If you are saying it will not hold water more than a hour, than I'm positive it's broke. As you already know.....sewer gas is highly flameable and poses serious health risks, so it's something you don't want to put off from fixing. IMO..... Rent a jackhammer and fix it right, don't bandaid it.


Scotty's right on this. :thumbup:
 
arntufun said:
More than likely your trap is cracked/broke. If you are saying it will not hold water more than a hour, than I'm positive it's broke. As you already know.....sewer gas is highly flameable and poses serious health risks, so it's something you don't want to put off from fixing. IMO..... Rent a jackhammer and fix it right, don't bandaid it.


Scotty's right on this. :thumbup:
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:agree: I would fix it or fill it in, either way you should probably demo out the trap.
 
American solution

sure seal inline floor drain trap sealer. wwwTheSureSeal.com. this unit will allow water to pass then seal up to keep out gasses. intended for seldom used floor drains whose traps dry out ( mine ) or traps that use a priming system that wastes tons of water ( industrial ? ). the exact part to solve my problem. thanks to everybody for their suggestions and opinions. i believe this is just what i need:thumbup: it only took me most of the day to find it.:roflblack:
 
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coz said:
it very seldom ever gets any water in it . the basement used to leak years ago , and the water would run to the drain, but i've corrected all that so it's basically there for that "just in case something breaks" scenario.
i'm just thinking there has to be an easier way, technology being what it is now. i'm a pretty good plumber myself, but i've never dealt with this before.
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That brings up another issue. Drain traps have to have water in them to prevent gases from entering the home. In a sink or something that gets regular use, they remain full and effective. Basement floor drains must be periodically refilled, though, to work properly. It is recommended that you pour some water down your floor drains on a monthy basis to prevent sewer gas leaks.
 
In checking with my plumber you can put a 1 iway check valve but you still need to dig up 6 to 8 inches. He added this is still not legal.
 
good tip

NancysToy said:
That brings up another issue. Drain traps have to have water in them to prevent gases from entering the home. In a sink or something that gets regular use, they remain full and effective. Basement floor drains must be periodically refilled, though, to work properly. It is recommended that you pour some water down your floor drains on a monthy basis to prevent sewer gas leaks.
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:agree:
 
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