Snoking1127
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That is my feeling also! At least when it becomes high centered it will be on a protected spot maybe! Still waiting to read about the first Canyon off highway recovery.
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Any experience or ideas on Increasing Ground Clearance on the Canyon Models?
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That is my feeling also! At least when it becomes high centered it will be on a protected spot maybe! Still waiting to read about the first Canyon off highway recovery.
Bfromla
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This:
@E55 Bulldog last visit was in 2020
Well I know I have been lingering around asking questions and you all have been very helpful. My Spyder is not 100% complete, might change a few things but all in all it’s running great and getting A LOT of attention. Big thanks to Daystar for the engineering genius !!!
8” lift (custom control arms)
Fox Float 3 EVOL snowmobile shocks
30” tires
UTV Hubs
UTV offroad wheels
Two Brothers Racing Exhaust and cat delete
KC LED off road lights
Custom fender flares
custom skit plate and push bar
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8” lift (custom control arms)
Fox Float 3 EVOL snowmobile shocks
30” tires
UTV Hubs
UTV offroad wheels
Two Brothers Racing Exhaust and cat delete
KC LED off road lights
Custom fender flares
custom skit plate and push bar
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@E55 Bulldog last visit was in 2020
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BajaRon
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I know exactly what you mean. I carry a tire gauge. But I've used it on other people's rides many more times than on my own. Same goes for my Krikit II belt tension gauge. And once they find out you have it, word goes out and it keeps things busy around the gathering places.
But with over 13" of snow on the ground today, I think I'll stay home.
BajaRon
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Now that's a BEAST!This:
Well I know I have been lingering around asking questions and you all have been very helpful. My Spyder is not 100% complete, might change a few things but all in all it’s running great and getting A LOT of attention. Big thanks to Daystar for the engineering genius !!!
8” lift (custom control arms)
Fox Float 3 EVOL snowmobile shocks
30” tires
UTV Hubs
UTV offroad wheels
Two Brothers Racing Exhaust and cat delete
KC LED off road lights
Custom fender flares
custom skit plate and push bar
@E55 Bulldog last visit was in 2020
But Shame On You! Those are Not BRP approved tires for the Spyder!!!
Rubicon guy
Member
Just sent adventure bike photo from Harley. What I asked for is modifications for Can Am Spyder Canyon that Can Am or its dealerships can provide for their customers. Thank you for all the extra information, it has been great, but…. Please write more times the Can Am Spyder Canyon is not a OHV machine.
In 14 more days it will be above freezing here in Sturgeon Bay, Wi. The second year of Canyon Adventure is beginning year 2.
BajaRon
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I think what confuses me, and maybe others, is that it is well established that the Canyon is an off pavement vehicle, not an off road vehicle. And this before your first post. You are asking for upgrades that can only be construed as at least moving your Canyon towards the OHV category. When this is pointed out, you admonish with the suggestion to write out a detail already well understood. Making it more difficult to offer realistic ideas.
That being said, Harley, not known for producing Adventure Bikes, has gotten some very high marks with this one. Maybe adding a front wheel to an Adventure bike is the way to go??
That being said, Harley, not known for producing Adventure Bikes, has gotten some very high marks with this one. Maybe adding a front wheel to an Adventure bike is the way to go??
Rubicon guy
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Thank you for pointing out the frustration. Only Can Am, Dealerships and certified Parts Manufacturers can improve the Canyon for the public use on all roads as an Adventure Motorcycle.
The Canyon is very close on ground clearance , 6.3”, to other adventure motorcycles. Undercarriage protection could be better. Suspension is great but could use some tweaks. The rest of the bike is great. There is always room for improvement.
All work on my boats, vehicles, and homes has been by certified people for me. On this web site hopefully we are looking to continue improvement on Can Am Spyder Models. This is the first year completed on Canyon (Motorcycle of the Year) and looking for continued improvements.
Be patient, improvements coming.
The Canyon is very close on ground clearance , 6.3”, to other adventure motorcycles. Undercarriage protection could be better. Suspension is great but could use some tweaks. The rest of the bike is great. There is always room for improvement.
All work on my boats, vehicles, and homes has been by certified people for me. On this web site hopefully we are looking to continue improvement on Can Am Spyder Models. This is the first year completed on Canyon (Motorcycle of the Year) and looking for continued improvements.
Be patient, improvements coming.
BajaRon
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Most of the serious improvements to existing vehicles are accomplished by aftermarket producers, though the manufacturers do try to make changes to faulty systems with warranty upgrades depending on the seriousness and level of bad press they get.
Additionally, manufacturers often incorporate aftermarket developed improvements on later models if opportunity and financial considerations are met. But to limit yourself to corporate producers of the machine is going to greatly reduce your chances of getting what you need. This limitation will increase the further from the original intent you plan to go. It will probably take years, and it may never happen at all.
Manufacturers tend to look at the big picture. Whereas aftermarket tends to target specific components where sales do not offer the volume profits that manufacturers are interested in. It's not a criticism, as manufacturers give us the foundational product that we could not otherwise produce. But neither are they able to give us exactly what we want. That is left to the individual owner and the aftermarket community. Which, in most cases, is nothing more than enthusiasts wanting to improve certain aspects of the machine.
Additionally, manufacturers often incorporate aftermarket developed improvements on later models if opportunity and financial considerations are met. But to limit yourself to corporate producers of the machine is going to greatly reduce your chances of getting what you need. This limitation will increase the further from the original intent you plan to go. It will probably take years, and it may never happen at all.
Manufacturers tend to look at the big picture. Whereas aftermarket tends to target specific components where sales do not offer the volume profits that manufacturers are interested in. It's not a criticism, as manufacturers give us the foundational product that we could not otherwise produce. But neither are they able to give us exactly what we want. That is left to the individual owner and the aftermarket community. Which, in most cases, is nothing more than enthusiasts wanting to improve certain aspects of the machine.
I used to get a kick out of guys pulling into the parking area, unloading their "off road" machines along with their children's rides, and taking off for wherever carrying an ice chest full of food and drinks. Within 2 miles or an hour, whichever comes first, somebody is pushing their "off road" ride back to the parking lot, and the ice chest (lol) no longer exists. Spending boocoo bucks on something and trying to use it for something it was not intended for is, at the very least foolish and wishful thinking. Not to mention costly and possibly hazardous. JMHO, witnessing it over the years.
Bfromla
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Agree & back during the “low rider craze” early '90’s as a teen witnessed a JEEP WRANGLER high center on a SPEED BUMP at bowling alley, crazy funny & no, dad didn’t stop to help.
Snoking1127
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Beside marketing, could someone explain why the Canyon was named motorcycle of the Year? Do they come with keys to locked Forest Service and Private Logging roads?
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BajaRon
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My initial reaction was similar. There is a lot about the Spyder that is not motorcycle. And I felt that the Canyon might be a machine without a purpose. But I've been wrong before. And I never want to tell someone else how to have fun or what they should be riding, though I will share suggestions if they ask.
The last guy on the 1st video you posted has some very good points. I'm always impressed with reason and logic that applies to the subject. And I have not ridden a Canyon, so my opinions in that area are suspect, at best. It always amuses me when someone tells me they don't see any advantage in putting an upgraded sway bar on the Spyder. But they've never ridden a Spyder with an upgraded bar. Which just goes to show that we all have opinions on things we know nothing about. It's human nature. I try to avoid that mistake with varying success.
I would love to ride a Canyon 'Off Pavement'. I've done a good deal of off road riding over the years. I've got a KTM 300 right now. I've had Husky's, a Can Am 250 MX, and other off road bikes. I even rode a 441 BSA in the dirt for a while. What a beast that was!
Ride and let ride, I say. If the Canyon does it for you, that's great! Who am I to say otherwise? Who knows. If I had one, I might love it too!
Is 'Bike of the Year' a bridge too far? I can't say. But it did put Rider Magazine front and center. People are still talking about that choice. Would this be true if the BMW or Harley had been put at the top? Doubtful. And for me, I'm wondering if Rider Mag saw this coming and that is the biggest reason for the Canyon landing on top.
Just an opinion... And worth less than you paid for it.
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Snoking1127
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I see the Canyon designed for a very narrow market, being not the best road offering from BRP, and a very limited off road vehicle. Time will tell.
I had a many different dirt bikes in my younger years. The Honda ATC 90 for several years, which was most likely better on gravel roads and dirty trails than the Canyon. If it got stuck (which did not happen often), I could move it around get going again.
Several snowmobiles, one true street bike (1978 KZ650 SR), a CfMoto two up quad in recent years, and I put 6005 miles on a 2021 Kawasaki KRX 1000 side by side in four years (in the Arizona Desert and mountains, Sand Hollow, Moab Utah, Oregon dunes, and Washington State Mountain trails)
In summary, I'd rather have something that is good at what I want it to do, versus a compromise machine that is trying to do too much.
Snoking1127
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What is going to happen when someone on a Canyon accidently goes down a hill that the machine will not be able to come back up and there is no other way out? I see that as maybe the first report where we'll hear of the need for a recovery. Someone out just have fun on a gravel road and it suddenly heads down a hill the Canyon is definitely not going to back up once you start down. So you head on down and find the only way back is via that hill that kept getting steeper.
I just remembered that the AC 90 was not my only early 3 wheel trike. There was a company in Seattle that made trike kits for dirt bikes, and I did that to a 70's XL175 Honda. It did well it the dunes...
I just remembered that the AC 90 was not my only early 3 wheel trike. There was a company in Seattle that made trike kits for dirt bikes, and I did that to a 70's XL175 Honda. It did well it the dunes...
BajaRon
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I know we are going far afield. But I never really enjoyed the dunes. Did Galamis and Pismo Beach several times. Nothing eats HP like dunes. Speed & momentum are your only friends. Lose either and you're pretty much done on 2 wheels. I never ran a paddle track so that was also problematic on the big hills.
Then you had the buggies piloted by beer (or whatever) drinkers hitting the sauce to contend with. They were definitely fun to watch though. Souped up Pinto motor driven buggies were the rage in my days at the dunes.
Mud hills were much more inviting for the riding we did, unless it rained. Not usually a problem in the desert East of San Diego. But if it did rain, you were in BIG trouble. Especially on a downhill trail.
Those days are gone for me. But you can't take the memories. And they alone were worth it.
Then you had the buggies piloted by beer (or whatever) drinkers hitting the sauce to contend with. They were definitely fun to watch though. Souped up Pinto motor driven buggies were the rage in my days at the dunes.
Mud hills were much more inviting for the riding we did, unless it rained. Not usually a problem in the desert East of San Diego. But if it did rain, you were in BIG trouble. Especially on a downhill trail.
Those days are gone for me. But you can't take the memories. And they alone were worth it.
Oh yeah! I remember those days. I worked at a local gas station near the high school. We'd place a matchbox on end in the center of the perfectly level gas island and see who could drive over it and knock it over. Few ever did because that was LOW! I'm guessing the Canyon carries more bragging rights than anything else. Kinda like the short-lived days of the lowriders we used see. But then again, I must agree with Ron. I've never owned one.
Snoking1127
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At 81 my memories are still great! And I am out on the Spyders making more quite often. We did the Roosevelt Lake 180 mile loop ride yesterday with lunch at Butcher Hook restaurant in Tonto Basin. Ride ON!
Snoking1127
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They record deaths there quite often from what I hear.
Rubicon guy
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Two great videos on Can Am Spyder Canyon and agree with both narrators a lot. The ride and customer will determine the Canyon’s future. The education process is just beginning for future riders on the Canyon when they go in desolate areas or cross country road trips in USA.
It would be nice if we could divide the areas of need on what a rider could do when they travel: first aid kit, compressor/jumper, navigation, rain gear, tow strap, paper map, compass, fire extinguisher, phone list for emergencies, etc. I have been blessed to work with retired doctors, nurses, firefighters, police officers, and military people who help lead on my traveling adventures. If this forum is not the place please delete this paragraph.
The Can Am Spyder Canyon Redrock is “Motorcycle of the Year” and the adventures are just beginning.
It would be nice if we could divide the areas of need on what a rider could do when they travel: first aid kit, compressor/jumper, navigation, rain gear, tow strap, paper map, compass, fire extinguisher, phone list for emergencies, etc. I have been blessed to work with retired doctors, nurses, firefighters, police officers, and military people who help lead on my traveling adventures. If this forum is not the place please delete this paragraph.
The Can Am Spyder Canyon Redrock is “Motorcycle of the Year” and the adventures are just beginning.
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