FANG
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My sentiments exactly - don't want some half burnt spyder all or nothing for me.
sorry for your loss Spyder3rdr
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Another Spyder *Fire*
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My sentiments exactly - don't want some half burnt spyder all or nothing for me.
sorry for your loss Spyder3rdr
Roger
New member
Fires and prevention
Someone here posted recently with pictures how they noticed a fuel line rubbing on the motor i don't know if this started the fire but when i get my spyder i will be sure to do something about this just to prevent anything from happening also Lamonsters air box fix. Although oil has been dripping from bikes for years and the fix does not appear to bother the bike at all. i don't think either one will affect the warranty does anyone know for sure? :dontknow:
Someone here posted recently with pictures how they noticed a fuel line rubbing on the motor i don't know if this started the fire but when i get my spyder i will be sure to do something about this just to prevent anything from happening also Lamonsters air box fix. Although oil has been dripping from bikes for years and the fix does not appear to bother the bike at all. i don't think either one will affect the warranty does anyone know for sure? :dontknow:
Firefly
Active member
You know --- Lamont made me think of something pertaining to the 'ignition source'. The ground connection under the seat. I know mine had come loose and the dealer thought that could have been causing my steering problems - they also tried to note that I had done mods and possibly caused this. I've never touched that connector - but it is in the general area where it could get some fumes.
Will check for tightness and maybe cover with silicone......
Will check for tightness and maybe cover with silicone......
GAS fire / GAS SMELL!!!
Felt I needed to say something here with the thread started about the fire starting around the gas cap area. Did not want to introduce myself like this but, I just purchased a new 09 spider and I have been watching the goings on, on this site. I must say the information is very informative and helpful. Thank you all!
Now, I have a storage building that I have kept all of my bikes in. It is sealed up tight and since I put the completely stock spyder in there just a few days ago, the air in the building now wreaks of gas fumes when I open the door. I don't know if this contributes to this fire problem but I thought all these new gas powered toys had sealed systems to control this. Any ideas or comments Welcomed.
Felt I needed to say something here with the thread started about the fire starting around the gas cap area. Did not want to introduce myself like this but, I just purchased a new 09 spider and I have been watching the goings on, on this site. I must say the information is very informative and helpful. Thank you all!
Now, I have a storage building that I have kept all of my bikes in. It is sealed up tight and since I put the completely stock spyder in there just a few days ago, the air in the building now wreaks of gas fumes when I open the door. I don't know if this contributes to this fire problem but I thought all these new gas powered toys had sealed systems to control this. Any ideas or comments Welcomed.
Lamonster
SpyderLovers Founder
welcome
I would bring it back to your dealer and have them take a look at it. It's bad enough if your Spyder catches fire but all your other bike with it would be a real bummer. :yikes:
BumbleBee
RT-S PE#0174
:agree:Bring it back to your dealer. :congrats:welcome Enjoy and ryde safe...
3wheeldemon
New member
welcome
You will find, like me that the fun of the Spyder compensates for the headaches of owning new technology. Is normal to be more compelled to report the negative that the positive, after all you expect that your new toy will work well. This forum is full of people that enjoy their rides and look forward to your participation.
I am sure in few minutes you will get some good tips on your fumes issue from the veterans of the forum. Enjoy your new ride!
3WD
You will find, like me that the fun of the Spyder compensates for the headaches of owning new technology. Is normal to be more compelled to report the negative that the positive, after all you expect that your new toy will work well. This forum is full of people that enjoy their rides and look forward to your participation.
I am sure in few minutes you will get some good tips on your fumes issue from the veterans of the forum. Enjoy your new ride!
3WD
kman
New member
I have been reading these posts lately on the fires and am very concerned so perhaps my mind or ears were playing tricks on me last evening.It was very hot and humid yesterday on my ride home from work and when i shut my engine off in the driveway I swear i heard a "whoosh" sound like you here when you turn off a propane grill.it sounded like it came from the exhaust pipe.Is it possible that unburned fuel in the exhaust and worn out gasket at the y connection might be possible cause?:dontknow:
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
I advise everyone to stop looking for a cause and get BRP and the National Highway Safety Admin. on this...we will not have the resources to do the testing that they can do and right now everyone is just speculating...
How many ideas have been thrown around? Dozens...
Let's bond together here, get a petition or something of the sort, and get the proper authorities and BRP to address this issue...we have power in numbers...far more than one person at a time...
We're gonna keep guessing (likely incorrectly) and waste time...what can we collectively do to expedite this process? Ideas...everyone??
How many ideas have been thrown around? Dozens...
Let's bond together here, get a petition or something of the sort, and get the proper authorities and BRP to address this issue...we have power in numbers...far more than one person at a time...
We're gonna keep guessing (likely incorrectly) and waste time...what can we collectively do to expedite this process? Ideas...everyone??
Firefly
Active member
We need to get those directly affected to FILE THE REPORTS with the NHTSA - which I have posted links to over and over. Really frustrating that only one Spyder owner has taken 20 minutes of his time to do this.
The most recent link I posted takes you directly to the start of the process:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm
How about we track down the owners out here and give them a big NUDGE to file a report. As of Friday there were no new filings. I check it about once a week since the fires to see if anyone is reporting these.
I agree with Mr. Safety as well. Instead of BRP identifying the cause of the fires, we should all just buy fire extinguishers?? That is like having an elephant on your foot so you take pain pills instead of figuring out how to get the elephant off your foot~! :lecturef_smilie:Good to take precautions but IMHO there seems to be ALOT of problems with the Spyder. I have had steering, shifting, brakes (still no fix for that) and surging issues with my 09 SE5 and have all the updates done as well as nuts and bolts falling out in the first 500 miles. On a 400 mile ride this past weekend I smelled gas at several stops. I thought it was coming from the truck ahead of me as we followed the guy through several small towns, but I could still smell it at times even after the guy turned off. Might have been my Spyder. :gaah:I'm leaving this Fri. for the Black Hills, so might be a good idea to get a fire extinguisher. Although to tell you the truth...if it started on fire I think I'd just let it burn. What is the point in putting out the fire early if they aren't going to be able to fix it? Would you ride it after it had been in a fire? :chill:And is BRP replacing the ones that have already burned? I bet the owners won't get a replacement free and clear, they will have to pay the difference between what their "used" Spyder is worth and the cost of a new one plus wait months and months for all the red tape to be sorted out. :cus: Sure is fun to ride when it all goes well, but not sure it is worth all of the headache and worry. My husband never has to worry when he takes his Harley out on the road.
This is the first toy I have owned (and let me tell you I have had many) that I do not feel safe riding and now wonder if I should look into to see if there is such a insurance policy that will pay full replacement and not book value. I am sure I am not the only one who has thousand $$$$ invested other than just the cost of the machine and we all know how the book value works with insurance companies pay outs you get shafted and not much. Anyone knows of such a company that has such a policy.
Every time I get ready to ride my Spyder I spend so much time making sure there is no smell of any kind no leaks anywhere and each time I stop and park I wait around to make sure there is no surprises before I walk always.
Every time I get ready to ride my Spyder I spend so much time making sure there is no smell of any kind no leaks anywhere and each time I stop and park I wait around to make sure there is no surprises before I walk always.
BLACK WIDOW
New member
Report
:agree:Firefly--You are 100% correct; If there fires occurred and go unreported to the Government and BRP it's the same as if they didn't happen. A very serious condition will remain.nojoke
Michael:doorag:
:agree:Firefly--You are 100% correct; If there fires occurred and go unreported to the Government and BRP it's the same as if they didn't happen. A very serious condition will remain.nojoke
Michael:doorag:
vt228
New member
I rode to work today , about 60 miles , one way ... I got home this evening about 7 and did a few things ... then decided to ryde to town to a friends house . I got on the saddle and noticed the smell of gas fumes ... started her up and backed up about 12 feet ... I looked down and my B*lls were on FIRE !!! I quickly shut it off and popped the seat up , flames were surrounding the fuel tank cap and under the plastics :gaah:, I ran inside and got my extinguisher and shot her full of powder !!! NO telling how long i'll be without my beloved Spyder ...[/quote
let us no how it started and where so we all can do fixs on ower spyders please send photos so we can see where it was on fire.where it started what started from .ray:
Firefly
Active member
This wouldn't be an issue for BRP to foot the bill for a replacement---- it is for your insurance company to deal with. If you have your bike properly insured - you should get a brand new one (heck - they are far cheaper today than when I bought mine!). Good time for everyone to check their policies and make sure your accessories are covered.
I would NOT ride mine after it had a fire - even a small one - unless BRP found out WHY and fixed it.
WaltH
Senior Member
This is number seven. My fire occurred on May 4th and I think the second fire (Texas) occurred on July 4th. If this is correct, we have had 5 fires since July 4th. Why the sudden surge in fires? Why didn't we have fires last summer? How many fires were there that we don't know about? Our group is small compared to the total number of Spyders sold.
This fire seems a little different. It appears to have started at the gas cap (vents to the canister) on the left side. Most of the others started on the right side where the fuel filter and canister are located. All of the fires appear to involve gasoline. It's the ignition source we don't know about.
The interesting question for this fire would be - "was the gas tank filled before it was parked". All gasoline expands after it leaves the underground tank.
I am sure BRP is working on this like crazy. I wish they would be a little more forthcoming about it. Sometimes you just have to tell the lawyers to "take a hike".
This fire seems a little different. It appears to have started at the gas cap (vents to the canister) on the left side. Most of the others started on the right side where the fuel filter and canister are located. All of the fires appear to involve gasoline. It's the ignition source we don't know about.
The interesting question for this fire would be - "was the gas tank filled before it was parked". All gasoline expands after it leaves the underground tank.
I am sure BRP is working on this like crazy. I wish they would be a little more forthcoming about it. Sometimes you just have to tell the lawyers to "take a hike".
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Firefly
Active member
As far as our numbers being low - think of it this way---
There are around 14,000 Spyders in the world.
3,000 members on this site. Not sure how many on this site actually own Spyders - but I would guess 2,000.
So we now have 6 member Spyders out of around 2,000 that have had fires. Changes the numbers drastically!
From that, one could calculate that there may be 42 fires out of the total 14,000.
There are around 14,000 Spyders in the world.
3,000 members on this site. Not sure how many on this site actually own Spyders - but I would guess 2,000.
So we now have 6 member Spyders out of around 2,000 that have had fires. Changes the numbers drastically!
From that, one could calculate that there may be 42 fires out of the total 14,000.
ElkSpyder
New member
The number of reported fires (on SpyderLovers.com) seems to be growing. Until the number of fires report to the government grows I don't think a cause and solution is going to be found. I've ridden over 18,000 miles, have not had any gas smells. And only had my exhaust gasket replacement one time. I'm not going to buy a fire extinguisher, if my :spyder: starts to burn, I'll wait for a replacement from my insurance company. And BRP will be introduced to my attorney. To anyone who has had this terrible thing happen to your :spyder:, my condolence.
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