Another CCW weapon question

[Pennyrick]

My wife and I went to the range today to get in some practice time, firing our 22's, 38's 380's and nines.

As I write this I just finished cleaning seven weapons.

I carry a Smith & Wesson bodyguard .380 in a hip holster when I ride. It is not a gun I like to practice with because of the kick and the fact that the slide is very difficult for these old hands to pull.

While at the range I looked at a Sig Sauer 238 and a Sig 938. Both have a much easier slide mechanism than the Smith but they carry a big price tag at $650. My Smith has laser sights and a six round mag. The Sig lets me pack more ammo and I really don't need laser sights. I can do a deal on the Sig for $325 plus my Smith.

A friend of mine who is a LEO says that is a good deal but he tells me the new Taurus Millenium G2 that just came out this year has a slide mech that is even easier than the Sig and it is half the price.

I have never read good things about a Taurus and while he agrees, he seems to feel this new gun is the real deal. He has been testing one for a few weeks. We both agree the Sig is better quality but unless I'm planning to become a paid mercenary I may not use a Taurus enough for that kind of quality to be a factor.

Any Spyderlovers who have tried the new Taurus yet?

 

[Bob Denman]

Taurus is a major player... :thumbup:
But I'd look at Glock; not that I LIKE them; but they are a proven design that's about a foolproof as an anvil. :thumbup:
They're also pretty available on the used shelves now too!
But I still prefer the 1911 A-1 :2thumbs:

 

[Cavman]

Since my riding jacket has shrunk a bit this past year, I have started to carry my SigSauer P238 which is .380. Normally I carry a Glock 23 in a retention Blackhawk holster while on the Spyder.
As far as racking a handgun, try pushing with you control hand while at the same time pulling with your support hand. This makes it a lot easier.

I have not tried a Taurus. I mostly have and use Glocks. Being a GSSF member, I can purchase a standard Glock, new in a box at $425 plus tax with the Glock purchase program. So could you.
Here is a copy of Glock's list off the www.gssfonline.com website.
Also, if you owned or borrowed a Glock, you could compete in a Glock Match and you could have a 1:4 chance of winning something....even a Glock of your choice. They have random drawings to make the 1:4 ratio. I'm currently waiting for my random Glock 27 Gen4 to arrive!:clap:

I would say that maybe you should got to a gun range that rents pistols and try the Taurus you are asking about? That way you would know first hand if it works for you? Call around to see what gun range rents that Taurus? Hope this helps?

 

[Cavman]

I just checked the results for the last Glock match I shot in. Looks like I won a random $50. :yes: WooHoo!

 

[Bob Denman]

:congrats: buys you a little more ammo! :thumbup:

 

[JimAlpha]

After using a friends Sig P238, I purchased one for concealed carry. Try both guns then choose the one you like the best. The Sig was worth the extra money to me. It is very easy to use, conceals easily and was accurate.

 

[Ga Blue Knight]

I still prefere a Colt Comander in 45 ACP. Not just being macho but consider this. Penetrating leather jackets, car windows and other objects de highway is just not in the realm of 22's 380's or most loadings a of 9mm's. A revolver in 357 mag would also be suitable but limited to 6 or 7 rounds versus 9 in the Colt (8 round mag, 1 in the chamber). A lightweight nylon shoulder holster is also better suited for use under a riding jacket. I know this is not everyone's choice but as a retired Federal Law Enforcement Officer I have some experience.

 

[MidLifeCrisis]

The Ruger LC9 is also a good choice for conceal carry. It's a 7+1, slim , light and the slide is pretty easy to operate. It has a DOA trigger, but pretty smooth and nice to shoot. It's generally in the 300 range and you can shorten the pull for another 40 if you so choose. It's also simple like the Glock, but you do get a thump safety, which also locks the slide when holstering.

 

[SPYD1]

I caution everyone from buying a Millenium as I have had to send mine back to Taurus twice for MAJOR failures. When I got it back this last time I sold it.

 

[AlamoRyder]

Go with quality

How many years do you plan on using this CCW? 10 or more? The price per year for the Sig is so cheap that it begs the question of “Why not”? The difference in quality is tremendous over the Tauras and you will love the Sig. You can even go with the new Sig 938 that is just a weebit larger than the 238. It is a no brainer to me. Glock makes a great gun but it is not that easily concealable. Shoot ‘um and then decide.

My wife and I went to the range today to get in some practice time, firing our 22's, 38's 380's and nines.

As I write this I just finished cleaning seven weapons.

I carry a Smith & Wesson bodyguard .380 in a hip holster when I ride. It is not a gun I like to practice with because of the kick and the fact that the slide is very difficult for these old hands to pull.

While at the range I looked at a Sig Sauer 238 and a Sig 938. Both have a much easier slide mechanism than the Smith but they carry a big price tag at $650. My Smith has laser sights and a six round mag. The Sig lets me pack more ammo and I really don't need laser sights. I can do a deal on the Sig for $325 plus my Smith.

A friend of mine who is a LEO says that is a good deal but he tells me the new Taurus Millenium G2 that just came out this year has a slide mech that is even easier than the Sig and it is half the price.

I have never read good things about a Taurus and while he agrees, he seems to feel this new gun is the real deal. He has been testing one for a few weeks. We both agree the Sig is better quality but unless I'm planning to become a paid mercenary I may not use a Taurus enough for that kind of quality to be a factor.

Any Spyderlovers who have tried the new Taurus yet?

 

[SllimG]

You can't go wrong with a Sig P238 or P938. Accurate, reliable, and light recoil. You can shoot one all day without wearing out your hand. If you aren't used to carrying a weapon with a safety you will have to practice until sliding the safety off becomes second nature. Otherwise, it could cost you dearly in a confrontation.

 

[Cavman]

For car doors, leather and bears, I can carry my Glock 20SF in 10mm!
I will start to carry the G27 when it gets here :dontknow: as it's a bit smaller than the G23. It's .40 caliber.

 

[Plyrod38]

I've got a Sig P229, not easy to conceal but it is one of the best shooting pieces I've ever had in my hand.

I traded my Glock 23 as partial payment on a custom 1911 commander, all stainless with a Caspian frame and all the farkles.
I was not able to shoot the Glock well. I've got small hands and it just didn't work for me. I changed out recoil springs and varied ammo to try to make it work for me. People love them or hate them, unfortunately my experience was the latter.

For CC while riding I like my Colt Mustang .380. I'm not planning to go into battle, just for personal protection.

 

[mjw930]

I still prefere a Colt Comander in 45 ACP. Not just being macho but consider this. Penetrating leather jackets, car windows and other objects de highway is just not in the realm of 22's 380's or most loadings a of 9mm's. A revolver in 357 mag would also be suitable but limited to 6 or 7 rounds versus 9 in the Colt (8 round mag, 1 in the chamber). A lightweight nylon shoulder holster is also better suited for use under a riding jacket. I know this is not everyone's choice but as a retired Federal Law Enforcement Officer I have some experience.

Ga Blue Knight, Check out the Springfield XDs, it's the smallest and lightest .45ACP that I've handled, it's surprisingly accurate and has a very controllable and comfortable recoil. Straight out of the box it shoots minute of bad guy at 25 yards, 1" groups at 7 yards.

As for the OP, spend the money on the Sig. All the other guns you mentioned are just different execution of the same design and although they are light they aren't know for longevity, accuracy or reliability. I've owned a number of the plastic BUG's and the Sig is simply from another planet, it's that much better.

 

[Ga Blue Knight]

Ga Blue Knight, Check out the Springfield XDs, it's the smallest and lightest .45ACP that I've handled, it's surprisingly accurate and has a very controllable and comfortable recoil. Straight out of the box it shoots minute of bad guy at 25 yards, 1" groups at 7 yards.

As for the OP, spend the money on the Sig. All the other guns you mentioned are just different execution of the same design and although they are light they aren't know for longevity, accuracy or reliability. I've owned a number of the plastic BUG's and the Sig is simply from another planet, it's that much better.

MJW, I already have a pair of Glocks, a 32 and a 27 both in 357 sig for summer use that would take the place of the XD's or I would have gone that route.

for the OP go for the SIG in any Caliber that you can handle but keep in mind that while it would be nice if carrying concealed would be comfortable it's the overall purpose that is important and comforting.

 

[Machinegunner]

I used to carry a Kel-Tec P-11, but have since changed to an AMT 45 Backup. Had to address a failure to feed problem. Now that it is fixed, it is my favorite concealed carry. 6 shots of 45 acp, very accurate and reliable. Smallest 45 auto made.

 

[Pennyrick]

Thanks for the comments everyone.

I decided on the Sig Sauer and then found out that none of the Atlanta dealers have any in stock. Everyone is backordered.

Then I found Clyde's Armory in Athens, Ga had a 938 for sale. Seems they ordered it for a guy who bought it new last month, fired about 20 rounds from it and just lost his job. He tried to get his money back and they bought it back from him. I don't know what kind of loss he took but it is an SAS model with Rosewood grips and I bought it for $650 and that is about $75 under retail.

I'm happy!

 

[Mike X]

O.M.G. You guys really 'pack heat' on your rides ?
over here in the U.K. I would drop down dead if someone pointed a gun at me , even carrying a catapult will get you in trouble with the cops .
Must be a great feeling to actually have access to such things , for self defence of course .
I have a few air rifles and an air pistol but compared to you guys they are just toys :bowdown:

 

[Bob Denman]

Mike,
No responsible gunowner would ever dream of pointing a handgun at anybody unless they had a real good reason; if they felt that their own life was in danger...
Just about everybody who decides to carry a handgun will never have to de-holster for anything other than a good cleaning, so I think that you'd be pretty safe around us over here...
And I really dig a good air rifle too! :thumbup:

 

[PrairieSpyder]

O.M.G. You guys really 'pack heat' on your rides ?
over here in the U.K. I would drop down dead if someone pointed a gun at me , even carrying a catapult will get you in trouble with the cops .
Must be a great feeling to actually have access to such things , for self defence of course .
I have a few air rifles and an air pistol but compared to you guys they are just toys :bowdown:

Is a "catapult" the same thing as a sling-shot?

I'm picturing a big siege machine, but I doubt you'd carry that around on you!:dontknow: