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Am I meeting something here about the oil
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trikermutha
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This was posted by BRP CAre awhile back..
https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums...re-on-1330-engined-Spyders&highlight=oil+fill
https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums...re-on-1330-engined-Spyders&highlight=oil+fill
Sarge707
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They do look reversed and The only valid oil check is to run the 9 miles or more and then idle 30 seconds and check. Th cold level could very well look like that?
Winnex3
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Thank you that’s a good post I will wait to the weather gets warmer and then take It for a spin then Check and see where it is but it still seems a little low where it’s at now
Tslepebull
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Apparently you are looking at the instructions for the Australian version. Yes the numbers on the owners manual look bass ackwards
trikermutha
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Check it when per the post thread. Then recheck the level may look low now and will change after you get it warmed up..
Yes, I saw that in the manual and thought it was mistake. Was your bike warmed up or cold checked? cueman
This is not a good thing to post! This is NOT a ACE 1330 engine. An ACE 1330 engine has a very complex oil sump system with many sump pumps. The ACE 900 engine is not even close by comparison. Winnex3 posted the correct date.
1.) I have two questions, what is going on in Mexico, do they have a Quality Control department?
2.) Why did the Dealer deliver your bike without checking the engine sump level? If your engine or gearbox ran low on oil it could seize up and lead to a fatal accident. I guess your life means little, only the small amount of cash that the dealer makes on these deals. It has been reported that dealers make as little as $400.00 profit per bike. What is the incentive to do a setup and actually inspect the mandatory lubricant inspections at the dealership, it appear to be NONE.
I make my live as an airworthiness safety inspector. If my job did not exist then many more people would be harmed each year in aviation accidents. I'm seeing a pattern developing here with this super low cost Ryker and the fact that it's being built in a 3rd world country (Mexico). It appears the Quality Control is not up to standards. I hope BRP is reading this posting!
Winnex3
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Cold I know it should look a little low just didn’t think it should look that low
This engine is derived from the snowmobile engine. You must be able to determine correct engine oil level when the engine is cold on a snowmobile. It is not a Spyder ACE 1330 engine which must be check hot and after 10 minutes of idle to allow the sump pumps to evacuate the sump areas.
Do not confuse this man. Follow the instruction that came with the engine. It can be check when the engine is cold. It is clearly low on oil!
Do not confuse this man. Follow the instruction that came with the engine. It can be check when the engine is cold. It is clearly low on oil!
Michaelscs
Member
That procedure is for the 1330 - F3's & RT's. Sarge707 has posted the correct method for the Ryker.
Min and Max are defiantly backwards in the manual!
Michaelscs
Member
Not according to the manual! Check after running the engine!
trikermutha
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Like I was suppose to know it was for a RYKer.. Thanks for your POST!
@Leland, the incentive to do a correct setup is that the dealer is charging US as customers. A few weeks ago I asked for a quote from my local dealer and got a $400 freight add on (for a bike I was sitting on while we were talking). This was to "cover shipment from the factory to the dealer". Also quoted a $411 charge for "prep" this was (quoted directly from the sales manager) "unit assembly, fluid checking and things like that". I did not buy that day. People like us, who made our living inspecting and repairing vehicles (whatever the type) understand the gravity of this situation and also understand, even though the mistake is on BRP, responsibility falls on the selling dealer and the tech who flagged the time to "prep" the vehicle.
trikermutha
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Sorry did not know that your question was for a Ryker..Disregard my post
Michaelscs
Member
@ Leland - For your information, the correct procedure for checking the oil in a snowmobile with the Ace 600 or 900 engine is also with the engine warmed up and than let it idle for 30 seconds!
Great news, thank you.
I don't own a Ski-doo with this engine. This makes sense, warm and a bit of a rest.
The basic oil level can be verified while cold to make sure that some oil is in the sump prior to light-off, but finial checking would be require after heat-up to allow for oil expansion.
The point I'm trying to make is the engine is far less sophisticated with regards to oil sumps compared to the ACE 1330. I'm trying to help this man get a feel for how to check his oil. Unfortunately someone by mistake posted the ACE 1130 procedure.
It will be interesting to see what the level comes up too after the correct procedure has been followed.
I don't own a Ski-doo with this engine. This makes sense, warm and a bit of a rest.
The basic oil level can be verified while cold to make sure that some oil is in the sump prior to light-off, but finial checking would be require after heat-up to allow for oil expansion.
The point I'm trying to make is the engine is far less sophisticated with regards to oil sumps compared to the ACE 1330. I'm trying to help this man get a feel for how to check his oil. Unfortunately someone by mistake posted the ACE 1130 procedure.
It will be interesting to see what the level comes up too after the correct procedure has been followed.
Winnex3
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Thank you that is what I thought it just looks a little to low I have Checked three times and still the same results
Michaelscs
Member
Yes, and the point I'm trying to make is you also made a mistake saying "It can be check when the engine is cold. It is clearly low on oil!"
We won't know if he's low on oil until the correct procedure has been followed!
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