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Alaska 2015 Getting/Being There and Return

Yikes, that's a lot of money. We will be bringing tools so that isn't an issue but wasn't there interest from someone in driving a chase vehicle with a trailer?

I also will be bringing tools and I am fairly handy with them.

I do not see a need to have a chase vehicle, but then I do have AAA that provides free towing up to 100 miles. They also have a plan that will go 200 miles, but cost more. If you do get AAA make sure you have RV+ as they consider motorcycles and Spyders as RV's

Les
 
Do not miss Liard Hot Springs, in Liard Hot Springs Provincial Park, (Google it) on the Alaska Hwy, 3 hours north of Fort Nelson B.C. Free. Walk 1 mile on boardwalk through marsh and woodlands, to the lower pool, complete with changing building. Don't forget your suits. The pool is fantastic. There is a second pool a little further. I have never gone to it. I was told the lower pool is the best. If you do not stop for this you will really miss something.
Parks Canada does a good job of interpreting Dawson City. Hit the visitor center first. Watch free short film. Take a guided walking tour of the city. Visit Robert Service's cabin for a poetry reading. There is a lot of history around Dawson City. You could not see it all in a wk.
Good luck,
Roger
NB: Get and use the "Milepost"
 
The wife and I have stayed several nights at the Knik River Lodge which seems pretty close to akspyderman.
While we were there we did a air boat ride up Knik river and all day stay at the base of the Knik Glacier. It was so remote and so spectacular. We had free roam of the area for the entire day. They had this little base camp setup with lunch, hot chocolate, etc. We will never forget our stay at Knik River Lodge and our day at the glacier.

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The wife and I have stayed several nights at the Knik River Lodge which seems pretty close to akspyderman.
While we were there we did a air boat ride up Knik river and all day stay at the base of the Knik Glacier. It was so remote and so spectacular. We had free roam of the area for the entire day. They had this little base camp setup with lunch, hot chocolate, etc. We will never forget our stay at Knik River Lodge and our day at the glacier.

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About 20 miles from my home. The area is on one of my proposed scenic rides. The web site will fill in the details should anyone want to stay there.
 
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alaska 2015

Years ago, wife and I made it as far as her birthplace Whitehorse Yukon, trip ended up shorter than expected due to weather and roads being washed out. Would love to go again, but this time will be on a cruise up the passage. Hope your trip is safe, eventfull, and full of memories, stay safe and ride safer.....:yes:
 
Skagway

Skagway is where the 1898 Klondike gold rush met the last gasp of the Wild West and where Alaska’s modern history began. After gold was found near Dawson City, Yukon Territory, miners disembarked on Skagway’s dock for the tough cross-country trek. Almost overnight, Skagway went from wilderness to a city of saloons and brothels. Arguments were settled with guns and the absence of sanitation caused epidemics, so the cemetery grew fast. The rush lasted less than two years, after which Skagway became an ordinary town, but with a notorious past.


Stampeders faced their greatest hardships on the Chilkoot Trail out of Dyea and the White Pass Trail out of Skagway. There were murders and suicides, disease and malnutrition, and death from hypothermia, avalanche, and, some said heartbreak. The Chilkoot was the toughest on men because pack animals could not be used easily on the steep slopes leading to the pass. Until tramways were built late in 1897 and early 1898, the stampeders had to carry everything on their backs. The White Pass Trail was the animal-killer, as anxious prospectors overloaded and beat their pack animals and forced them over the rocky terrain until they dropped. More than 3,000 animals died on this trail; many of their bones still lie at the bottom on Dead Horse Gulch.


It’s history is presented well in the Klondike Gold Rush National Historical Park ( http://www.nps.gov/klgo/index.htm) which encompasses a 7-block corridor in the city.


Klondike Highway 2 connects Skagway with Whitehorse, YT, 100 miles away over the White Pass, a route with views as good as those on the excursion train which operates over the pass (http://wpyr.com/excursions/train-excursions/white-pass-summit-excursion/).


Here’s more links about things to do in Skagway:


http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g60877-Activities-Skagway_Alaska.html


https://www.travelalaska.com/Destinations/Communities/Skagway.aspx
 
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Break downs

I live in Idaho and have been traveling on 2 wheels for more than 40 years many of my trips were on dirt roads and now due to health I have been considering a Spyder F3, however after reading all these thread's about needing a truck for break downs, do Spyder breakdown that much? I sure hope not as the Spyder was my hope of getting back in the saddle.
 
I live in Idaho and have been traveling on 2 wheels for more than 40 years many of my trips were on dirt roads and now due to health I have been considering a Spyder F3, however after reading all these thread's about needing a truck for break downs, do Spyder breakdown that much? I sure hope not as the Spyder was my hope of getting back in the saddle.

No they do NOT break down. But we're planning to ride from Washington to Alaska on some really remote routes with scant services - let alone finding someone who knows anything about working on Spyders. Having some parts and tools for contingencies could mean the difference between spending all your vacation in some Yukon village and rejoining the group on the way home, or getting all the way to Anchorage and enjoying as much as you can pack into the time you have there.
 
I'm glad to hear they don't break down and I do understand your point for the truck and wasted vacation time, it's just that I have made many trips taking weeks at a time without breakdowns and no support vehicles however I do understand it doesn't hurt anything to be prepared . I have read so many thread's about problems with Spyders that this one started to make me second guess my purchasing of one. Your trip to Alaska sounds awesome and you will enjoy the beautiful state that Alaska is and Idaho isn't bad either.
 
I'm glad to hear they don't break down and I do understand your point for the truck and wasted vacation time, it's just that I have made many trips taking weeks at a time without breakdowns and no support vehicles however I do understand it doesn't hurt anything to be prepared . I have read so many thread's about problems with Spyders that this one started to make me second guess my purchasing of one. Your trip to Alaska sounds awesome and you will enjoy the beautiful state that Alaska is and Idaho isn't bad either.

I have over 100,000 :spyder2: miles on Alaska roads since 2008. Never had a break down or been left stranded. The North to Alaska travelers are trying to be prepared, just in case.

The :ani29: is not designed for four-wheeling or for off road adventures. Sticking to the pavement, improved (graded) gravel roads (not my cup of tea), are usually just fine. If you run into construction or really bad road, just slow down.
 
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Skagway is where the 1898 Klondike gold rush met the las gasp of the Will West and where Alaska’s modern history began. After gold was found near Dawson City, Yukon Territory, miners disembarked on Skagway’s dock for the tough cross-country trek. Almost overnight, Skagway went from wilderness to a city of saloons and brothels. Arguments were settled with guns and the absence of sanitation caused epidemics, so the cemetery grew fast. The rush lasted less than two years, after which Skagway became an ordinary town, but with a notorious past.


Stampeders faced their greatest hardships on the Chilkoot Trail out of Dyea and the White Pass Trail out of Skagway. There were murders and suicides, disease and malnutrition, and death from hypothermia, avalanche, and, some said heartbreak. The Chilkoot was the toughest on men because pack animals could not be used easily on the steep slopes leading to the pass. Until tramways were built late in 1897 and early 1898, the stampeders had to carry everything on their backs. The White Pass Trail was the animal-killer, as anxious prospectors overloaded and beat their pack animals and forced them over the rocky terrain until they dropped. More than 3,000 animals died on this trail; many of their bones still lie at the bottom on Dead Horse Gulch.


It’s history is presented well in the Klondike Gold Rush National Historical Park ( http://www.nps.gov/klgo/index.htm) which encompasses a 7-block corridor in the city.


Klondike Highway 2 connects Skagway with Whitehorse, YT, 100 miles away over the White Pass, a route with views as good as those on the excursion train which operates over the pass (http://wpyr.com/excursions/train-excursions/white-pass-summit-excursion/).


Here’s more links about things to do in Skagway:


http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g60877-Activities-Skagway_Alaska.html


https://www.travelalaska.com/Destinations/Communities/Skagway.aspx

Skagway is a beautiful sidebar trip if you have the extra day's time. A little over 100 miles S out of Whitehorse (by road). You will leave Canada and enter American (Alaska) soil at the bottom of the trip. Your passport will be needed to return to Canada. The trip crosses the famous White Pass that the Goldrushers had to climb by hand and pack mule. The views are stunning and the famous White Pass RR can be seen from time to time. It looks like the tracks are on a shelf on the side of the cliffs. A beautiful canyon is below. You can ride the train--if you dare:yikes:. An all day trip, about $100 per person.

Not much going on in Skagway. A couple blocks of Main Street and all filled with tourist shops and the White Pass RR station. The famous brothel has been turned into a restaurant/brothel museum. They have really good burgers. :roflblack: Spouse would not let me take the brothel tour. :roflblack:

Skagway can also be accessed if you are taking the ocean (ferry) route.
 
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I have over 100,000 :spyder2: miles on Alaska roads since 2008. Never had a break down or been left stranded. The North to Alaska travelers are trying to be prepared, just in case.

The :ani29: is not designed for four-wheeling or for off road adventures. Sticking to the pavement, improved (graded) gravel roads (not my cup of tea), are usually just fine. If you run into construction or really bad road, just slow down.

Thank you as this makes me feel more confident in purchasing a F3. I had already ordered one back in October so now I'm excited again.
 
I will second (or 3rd) the view that taking the side trip to Skagway is so worth while, if for nothing more than, for the scenery and the thought of the history of the route the gold seekers took. It will give you some appreciation of what they had to endure. The length of the distance the miners had to travel to get to the Dawson City area will become more apparent too. Getting to White Horse was a good distance and that was just the start of the trip. The trip from White Horse to Dawson City was in many ways even more demanding and a greater distance. Most went by boat and many died on the river. Some tried to go by land and that was even tougher.

You really should make time for the side trip. Skagway wasn't as interesting to us as the route. Skagway gets a lot of cruise ships stopping there and is somewhat touristy.

You will need your passport to get back into the US from Canada as much as the other way around.

Another side trip that I think you should make is to Haines, Alaska on highway 3 from Haines Junction, YT. Again, the scenery is outstanding especially on the stretch to Chilkat Pass. Haines is not as tourist as Skagway. Again, there is a border crossing. The road is good too but will add a day to your travels.

Gary
 
I don't think a chase vehicle is really needed - perhaps a trailer with a belt/tire(s)/flat fix, etc may be - or spread the stuff out among the various bikes.

Also, don't forget the partial ferry segments - ie: Valdez to Price Rupert - shorter and cheaper - then you come down through Prince George (or up through...)

Finally, my favorite road in the world (& I HAVE been in a LOT of places) is HWY 93 between Lake Louise and Jasper (take the tram, if you get to Jasper!!) - the photo is Jasper from the top of the Tram.
 

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Denali Excursion


Karyl just sent this info about the lodging and excursion she's arranging for Denali.


Thanks Les and Kathy:


This trip is $52.50 plus $10.00 park entrance fee. (if I haven't got that price correct please let me know ASAP..thanks)



This is for the excursion to Denali/Mt McKinley bus excursion: They do not pick up at the Healy motel I found (all closer motels were booked). Healy is 11 miles from parking to connect with bus. I will post motel info later..

This would be my preference forthe bus trip. Costs a bit, but should see the most and I figure once in a lifetime trip.

Kantishna Experience
Offered June 8 - mid-September

Follow the trail of pioneer Fannie Quigley to the old gold town of Kantishna on this all-day adventure to the end of the Park Road. Your driver is a Certified Interpretive Guide and a National Park Service interpretive ranger joins you roughly halfway through your journey on this immersive experience. You will spend time in Kantishna learning about its interesting history and role in Interior Alaska.

This trip lasts 11 to 12 hours, traveling the entire 92 mile road and back over the course of the day.

The Kantishna Experience includes a lunch, snack and beverages. There are two daily departures. The tours pick up from area hotels in the early morning and depart from the Wilderness Access Center at 6:30 am and 7:30 am. They return roughly twelve hours later, and are a unique experience in the park that you don't want to miss! Specific hotel pick-up times are available from the bus company.

Some walking is involved.



 

Karyl just sent this info about the lodging and excursion she's arranging for Denali.


Thanks Les and Kathy:


This trip is $52.50 plus $10.00 park entrance fee. (if I haven't got that price correct please let me know ASAP..thanks)



This is for the excursion to Denali/Mt McKinley bus excursion: They do not pick up at the Healy motel I found (all closer motels were booked). Healy is 11 miles from parking to connect with bus. I will post motel info later..

This would be my preference forthe bus trip. Costs a bit, but should see the most and I figure once in a lifetime trip.

Kantishna Experience
Offered June 8 - mid-September

Follow the trail of pioneer Fannie Quigley to the old gold town of Kantishna on this all-day adventure to the end of the Park Road. Your driver is a Certified Interpretive Guide and a National Park Service interpretive ranger joins you roughly halfway through your journey on this immersive experience. You will spend time in Kantishna learning about its interesting history and role in Interior Alaska.

This trip lasts 11 to 12 hours, traveling the entire 92 mile road and back over the course of the day.

The Kantishna Experience includes a lunch, snack and beverages. There are two daily departures. The tours pick up from area hotels in the early morning and depart from the Wilderness Access Center at 6:30 am and 7:30 am. They return roughly twelve hours later, and are a unique experience in the park that you don't want to miss! Specific hotel pick-up times are available from the bus company.

Some walking is involved.




You folks will love the trip. The bus stops for all wildlife. Eagles, bears, ptarmigan, foxes, caribou, moose, etc. etc. There is so much that by hour 5 you may be tired of it. :roflblack::roflblack:

They have upgraded the busses, so they are a little better to ride in if you have a bad back or something like that.

You will climb several narrow passes, a couple feet between oncoming busses and those on the cliff side will get a little of a thrill. The vistas are to die for. Specially KodaChrome Pass. Sincerely hoping you get a blue sky day so you can see all. Denali "hides" about 20% of the time.

Recommend visiting "Glitter Gulch" about 5 miles North of the Denali entrance. Vegas in Alaska. :yes:
 
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Below is a description of what some of us are doing on July 12 - July 14. If you're going North To Alaska with us and you want to visit the north slope, you should call the tour provider, Northern Alaska Tour Company, on 800-474-1986 and reserve your spot.

Arctic Ocean Adventure -- Southbound

A Three Day Guided Round Trip Journey By Air And Land To Alaska's Arctic Coast
Tour Summary:

  • DAY 1: Fly north from Fairbanks to Prudhoe Bay. Visit the Prudhoe Bay oil fields and begin the journey by dipping your toe in the frigid waters of the Arctic Ocean. Overnight at Prudhoe Bay.
  • DAY 2: Ground tour south in the personalized comfort of our tour vans along the famed Dalton Highway. Explore up close the amazing arctic tundra of the Arctic Coastal Plain and feel the veins of ice just beneath the surface. Continue across the Arctic Coastal Plain before climbing through the majestic Brooks Mountain Range and over the Continental Divide at Atigun Pass. Overnight at rustic Coldfoot. Optional Anaktuvuk Pass Adventure available on Day 2 (see end of page).
  • DAY 3: Visit the historic goldmining community of Wiseman. Cross over the Arctic Circle and receive an official Arctic Circle Adventure Certificate. Experience the mighty Yukon River. Marvel at the majestic beauty of the northland's most famous waterway and learn of the river's storied past. Visit the Arctic Circle Trading Post situated in the rural community of Joy, Alaska. Complete your adventure with a southbound ground tour back to Fairbanks.
  • Departs by air approximately 7:00 am - 9:00 am DAY 1; returns by land approximately 8:00 - 9:00 pm on DAY 3.
  • Tour Schedule: May 23 to September 9, 2015 on Tuesday, Friday, Sunday
  • 2015 Summer Rate: $1139.00/person based on double occupancy. ($200 Single Supplement

 
I just ordered from PitBull a front tire and rim for my 2014 RTS and a tire and rim for my RT622 trailer so I'll have spares for the trip. Now I just need to get a scissor jack and a lug wrench to go with it!
 
Itinerary of 14 days of Alaska Trip

I've tried to summarize the first part of the North to Alaska trek. This is based on the emails from MurphyBrown. This will give you an idea of where we'll go on the way there, some of the costs (which aren't as high as I feared), and some of the sight-seeing we'll do.

If you think you're interested in going, please contact Karyl (MurphyBrown).

Monday, June 29, Day 1

  • Chelan/Manson, WA to Clinton, BC
  • 360 miles
  • Lodging at Nomad Motel in Clinton BC; 250-459-2214
    • Prices for our group: [rates include tax]
    • 1 bed (up to 2 people) $50.85
    • 2 beds $56.50
    • ***2 Bedroom (4 people has kitchen) $84.75 This room may not be available...she will know for sure by Mid March..
  • Group seating for dinner at the Roadkill Grill...Michele says they have killer BBQ and she will get us a discount


Tuesday, June 30, Day 2

  • Clinton, BC to Burns Lake, BC
  • 388 miles
  • Lodging at Sunshine Inn at Burns Lake BC; 250-692-7696
    • All rooms reserved on ground floor.
    • Provide a continental breakfast
    • Prices are Canadian:
    • 2 BR Suite (2 separate people/couples can take this one...first come first serve) $129 +tax
    • All other rooms (a mix of 1 or 2 beds). $89 plus tax


Wednesday, July 1, Day 3

  • Burns Lake, BC to Iskut, BC
  • 408 miles
  • Lodging at Tatooga Resort; 250-847-5885 (John is the contact dude)
    • I did a mix of room types....I will work with John if need to massage/change room configuration. So what is available are:
      • Crew Camp : Separate bedroom...bathrooms are multiple stalls (private) but in same room
      • Cost $50 plus tax Canadian
      • 2 Bed Motel Room: $130.00 plus tax
    • Restaurant on property they also have website so you can "check" it out.


Thursday July 2, Day 4

  • Iskut, BC to Teslin, YT
  • 345 miles
  • Lodging at Motel Nisutlin Motel; 867-390-2521
    • contact person Rick
    • please make reservation via phone..he doesn't check email very often!!
    • 2 rooms are single Q
    • Rest are double Q
    • Price: same for both $115 plus tax Canadian
    • he will give us a 10% discount because he will honor my senior rate for all rooms.
    • email: [email protected]


Friday, July 3, Day 5

  • Teslin, YT to Whitehorse, YT
  • 110 miles
  • 2 nights lodging at Muktuk B&B;
    • Rates (Canadian $):
      • Small guest room: 1 Bed Q bed $99 + tax
      • Large guest room: 1 Dbl/1 single bed $109. +
      • 2 Bedroom Cabin: $119.00+ (read ** below)
      • Shilo Cabin: 4 single beds...2 in loft area/2 in BR area $169.00 +
    • They have breakfast and dinner
  • We will arrive at Whitehorse with enough time to see the local sites.


Saturday, July 4, Day 6

  • Optional day-trip to Skagway, AK
  • 109 miles each way via Klondike Highway


Sunday, July 5, Day 7

  • Whitehorse, YT to Tok, AK
  • 386 miles
  • Lodging at Young's Motel
    • # and contact info: Chris and her direct line is 907-883-5578 She works only Mon - Fri 8 am to 4 pm ALASKA TIME. DO NOT talk to anyone else!!!
    • Rooms are all 2 beds and $101 per room no tax
    • Restaurant next door
    • Email [email protected]
    • Office Tele 907-883-5578
    • Office Fax 907-883-5023
    • Motel & Restaurant Front Desk 907-883-4411
    • Motel & Restaurant Front Desk Fax 907-883-4369


Monday, July 6, Day 8

  • Tok, AK to Eagle River, AK
  • 303 miles
  • Lodging at Microtel; 907-622-6000
    • Includes breakfast
    • laundry available
    • 1 bed $145.54 less 10% senior discount
    • 2 bed $193.74 less 10% senior discount


Tuesday, July 7 through Thursday, July 9, Days 9-11

  • Area touring led by Dwayne (AKSpyderMan)
  • Lodging at Microtel at Eagle River, checking out morning of July 10


Friday, July 10, Day 12

  • Eagle River to Healy
  • 235 miles
  • 2 nights lodging at Totem Inn; 907-683-6500
    • $140 per night


Saturday, July 11, Day 13

  • Tour Denali National Park
  • Cost $175. If you have a senior citizen national park pass, bring it to show and they will refund $10
  • They do not pick up at the Healy motel. Healy is 11 miles from parking to connect with bus.
  • Kantishna Experience: Follow the trail of pioneer Fannie Quigley to the old gold town of Kantishna on this all-day adventure to the end of the Park Road. Your driver is a Certified Interpretive Guide and a National Park Service interpretive ranger joins you roughly halfway through your journey on this immersive experience. You will spend time in Kantishna learning about its interesting history and role in Interior Alaska.
  • This trip lasts 11 to 12 hours, traveling the entire 92 mile road and back over the course of the day.
  • Includes a lunch, snack and beverages. There are two daily departures.
  • Depart from the Wilderness Access Center at 6:30 am and 7:30 am.
  • They return roughly twelve hours later
  • Some walking is involved
  • Please call and get your seat: Ask for North to Alaska group and use the reference/confirmation #3000182X1
  • We need to be at the Wilderness Access Center parking lot at 7:00 AM on 7/11


Sunday, July 12, Day 14
Today the group will break up with people going their own ways to make their Alaska Spyder adventure their very own. Some will do a 3-day/2-night Arctic Ocean Adventure to Prudhoe Bay or a 1-day excursion by air to Barrow to see the Arctic Ocean and native culture. There will be a cruise from either Whittier or Seward to see some glaciers and wildlife.
 
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