? about Front Tires

[ruthie]

I have one of the front tires that has worn just on the inside which I think is alignment problem. I keep the tires at between 17 -18. Called the dealer about new tires, gave me price of tires, mounting and balance only. I asked about alignment and was told they did not do alignment on the Spyder. Then I was told that you need to rotate the tires every other oil change. Well I checked the owner manual it doesn't say any thing about rotating tires but it does say wheel alignment very 6,000 miles.

Who has had new front tires installed? Did they do an alignment? Have you done alignment at every 6,000 like the owner manual say?

I have 17000 miles on my 2010 RTS, I buy a bike to ride not to sit in the garage.

I know this dealer is selling many of the Spyders so why doesn't they provide a full maintenance on them.

 

[Sarge707]

It would be easier if you could show a picture and give the current mileage?
Mine wore slightly on the inside SO I had them rotated at 8,000 miles and am now at 15,000 with a few thousand to go.

 

[eagle]

front tires

i have an 08 gs. this past spring i seen front tires wearing on inside, so had tires remounted so as to put wore areas towards outside of rime, had theme rebalanced also a must. the best thing i did was to tighten front shocks to the max. this got a-frames level, which keeps tires from tipping in at the top. i put 12000 miles on after this and all is fine. total 21000 miles tires look to go at least 10000 more hope this helps.

 

[johnnyg]

I have almost 25000 mi on my front I rotate them every other oil change there wearing fine. But I have changed my rear twice now at 24000 mi Oh I run 28 psi in FR and 30 on R. I think i am going to go to a car tire on the rear next time I need one.

 

[ruthie]

I have almost 25000 mi on my front I rotate them every other oil change there wearing fine. But I have changed my rear twice now at 24000 mi Oh I run 28 psi in FR and 30 on R. I think i am going to go to a car tire on the rear next time I need one.

I guess the tires that look like directional tire are not. The owner manual said to rotate when thread is down 5/32. Johnnyg, does your dealer to the tires in their shop or take them someplace else. What are you paying to have them rotate?

 

[Sarge707]

When rotated they need to be taken off each rim and rotated because they are directional. An allignment shop did it for $68 when I had them rotated and includes balancing.

 

[Blue Star]

Rotating tires

My mechanic rotated my front tires on my 6000 mile as they were starting to show more use on the inside. :agree: The tires are directional, so they have to be taken off the rim and put back on. When my mechanic told me about rotating tires during the 3000 I asked if there is a set mileage for it. He said to just watch how the tire wear as it depends on the road conditions, how I ride, and It just turned out to start showing at the 6000 point. He told me I was at the point that I could wait, but since he only charged me $30.00 I went ahead and did it.

 

[ruthie]

My mechanic rotated my front tires on my 6000 mile as they were starting to show more use on the inside. :agree: The tires are directional, so they have to be taken off the rim and put back on. When my mechanic told me about rotating tires during the 3000 I asked if there is a set mileage for it. He said to just watch how the tire wear as it depends on the road conditions, how I ride, and It just turned out to start showing at the 6000 point. He told me I was at the point that I could wait, but since he only charged me $30.00 I went ahead and did it.

where in the owner's manual maintenance schedule does it say to rotate tires every 6000 miles? What about checking the alignment on the Spyder. Is your dealers inspecting the alignment every 6000 miles like the maintenance schedule says, ask them how it is done. My dealer said that they don't have the equipment to check the alignment on the Spyder. Wondering mind want to know so I can inform my mechanic.

 

[ARtraveler]

I have 23,000 on my RTS fronts and they are still looking good. I have never rotated the tires.

 

[SpyderAnn01]

where in the owner's manual maintenance schedule does it say to rotate tires every 6000 miles? What about checking the alignment on the Spyder. Is your dealers inspecting the alignment every 6000 miles like the maintenance schedule says, ask them how it is done. My dealer said that they don't have the equipment to check the alignment on the Spyder. Wondering mind want to know so I can inform my mechanic.

My front tires wore unevenly also and I replaced them at about 20,000 miles. My alignment was way off. If your dealer doesn't have the equipment to do it I would ask them to buy it. My dealer had to pick up something to do my alignment with but it was something that they got locally and it didn't cost much. It isn't like a big piece of equipment is needed.

 

[Bob Denman]

If the dealer isn't checking for alignment issues, perhaps THEY should be replaced...

 

[ARtraveler]

:agree: Based on what the dealer said--sounds like they don't know much about the issue or are trying to blow smoke.

 

[Tonga]

One front tire worn is not an alignment issue but a worn suspension part. If you hit a curb or something bigger then that could be another issue. Remmeber that the steering is centered by Buds so if the toe in was off both tires would wear, not one.

 

[gypsy_100]

Tire Rotation

If you look in the owner's manual in the maintenance section under "tires", you will find a recommendation to rotate the front tires when the tread depth wears down to 4mm or 5/32" (page 124 in the 2011 manual). Quoted reason -- "This will maximize tire life." There is a boxed warning that the tires are directional and must be dismounted and re-mounted for tire rotation. Running a directional tire in the wrong direction will increase your tendency to hydroplane -- just what you don't need as the tread wears down to its minimum depth.

I question the cost effectiveness of doing this but for the prices mentioned in this thread, it sounds pretty good. My front tires measured 7mm when new. I'll track how long it takes to get to 4mm and how even they are wearing. Then decide at that point whether to rotate. And get a price from the dealer for mounting and balancing.

 

[Sarge707]

i have an 08 gs. this past spring i seen front tires wearing on inside, so had tires remounted so as to put wore areas towards outside of rime, had theme rebalanced also a must. the best thing i did was to tighten front shocks to the max. this got a-frames level, which keeps tires from tipping in at the top. i put 12000 miles on after this and all is fine. total 21000 miles tires look to go at least 10000 more hope this helps.

:agree: Shortly after rotating I changed my shocks from the 3 setting to 5 or Maximum and the wear seems more even now, But by this weekend I should recieve and install my new ELKA,s so I won,t need the BRP adjustment tool anymore!:clap:

 

[Blue Star]

where in the owner's manual maintenance schedule does it say to rotate tires every 6000 miles? What about checking the alignment on the Spyder. Is your dealers inspecting the alignment every 6000 miles like the maintenance schedule says, ask them how it is done. My dealer said that they don't have the equipment to check the alignment on the Spyder. Wondering mind want to know so I can inform my mechanic.

I don't know where it says in the owner's manual maintenance schedule, as I never looked at it. As I said in my origional post my mechanic said to watch how the thread is wearing, and rotate them. He said it was a good idea as to how they are wearing, and even I could tell they were worn more on the inside than the outside. While it was not much, but I could tell the difference between the inside and the outside. My decision was on my mechanic's recommendeation, and he said it was up to me. I trust him so I followed it.

 

[johnnyg]

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I guess the tires that look like directional tire are not. The owner manual said to rotate when thread is down 5/32. Johnnyg, does your dealer to the tires in their shop or take them someplace else. What are you paying to have them rotate?

My dealer does it at there shop and they do balance then each time RideNow Ocala, FL they charge me $59.97 .67hr I have no priblem with it.Hope this helps.

 

[NancysToy]

One front tire worn is not an alignment issue but a worn suspension part. If you hit a curb or something bigger then that could be another issue. Remmeber that the steering is centered by Buds so if the toe in was off both tires would wear, not one.

:agree:

There was a dealer bulletin that addressed tire rotation (side to side). I believe BRP has since increased the toe-in spec. Some dealers may not be aware of this. Many dealers are unfamiliar with the alignment procedure.

My dealer had never done an alignment before he did my 2010, either. They bought the necessary tools at the local home improvement center. The procedure is in the shop manual, but BRP's dealer tech assistance people can talk your dealer through it, too. They need an eight foot piece of aluminum angle, a couple of foot long pieces or sturdy straps, some C-clamps, a magnetic laser level, and a tape measure or ruler. They should also probably obtain the new steering centering tool from BRP. I would recommend using the newest toe-in spec of 3/32" in six feet. They will need to recalibrate the steering sensors after alignment.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

TIRE WEAR AND ALIGNMENT ISSUES

Can someone tell me how BRP can Franchise a Dealership that does not have the equipment necessary to service their products.???????????? After some lengthy discussions with rnet..I did a camber adjustment on the front...i know this is not spoken of by BRP but I did it anyway and so far 2000 + miles it seems to be working just fine....what i did was the two upper most bolts on the front wheels as seen from the inside can be removed individually and have a 3/8 washer put behind them and then torqued back down.....this brings the wheel more upright when looked at from straight ahead, and therefore stops the inside tire wear....i tried what sarge707 did but it wasn't enough....so i did this and lowered my pre-load to #3., which is in the middle...........Mike............:thumbup:

 

[ruthie]

that is my question too! Can someone tell me how BRP can Franchise a Dealership that does not have the equipment necessary to service their products.??????

Why is these bulletins not done pull up when you take it in for service?

Did this bulletin address rotating the wheels every other oil chg or the alignment?

Would love to hear from Lamonster about this since he has put many and many miles on the :spyder2:. Wish he would speak for us to BRP about dealerships and their service departments. BRP needs to know for the sells to continue, you need dealerships that can and will provide the service on them.