A snap ring found on magenta while changing the oil

[PMK]

Since the original person posting this signed up in March of 2017, and has two identical posts with no replies to either of the topics they started, the persons interest here in pretty low and the likelihood of them returning to use any help provided will be stale until the engine comes apart.

Whether it comes apart as a teardown from blowing up, or as an inspection item to find the cause of the clip, all the best with it.

 

[PMK]

I'd keep riding and hope for the best, I'm not sure what the cost would be to disassemble the engine, but I bet it could easily be in the $1000.'s and there is still no guarantee they will find where it came from. I also hope your dealer is 100% trustworthy. Who knows for sure. Did that really come from your machine or not.

As for the dealer, it seems odd they would find the broken part, then advise to ride it if they were simply out to get the money. Possibly they expected a reaction of let's fix it, and when the person waivered a bit, they backed down to just ride it.

Let's hope the dealer is not that ruthless, but it won't be the first nor last time it happens.

 

[Firefly]

I'd make the dealer put it in writing what was found and the they recommended that you continue to ride it.

Good point.


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[Firefly]

I looked at the gearbox schematic. If it hasn't caused any issues, I would keep riding it. It is possible the other half is still in place, but I would look for it on the oil plug at the next oil change. Or, its a 2011. You could sell it to the next unsuspecting person and buy a newer one. It may never cause a problem. Looks to me like most of the snap rings are there for assembly purposes and the gears are fine after assembly into the gearbox. I could be wrong. have been before. If you notice any change in the way it shifts in any gear, then there might be a problem. If the other half of the ring is in the bottom of the pan, it will probably stay there and never move. Ride it, thats what I would do. If it was under warranty , then that would be different.

I can't condone selling to an individual when you know something is wrong... I wouldn't be able to sleep well. Now.. trading it in to the dealer who told you it was okay to keep riding it? Sure.. the. The burden is on them.


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[Mikeye]

Really

I looked at the gearbox schematic. If it hasn't caused any issues, I would keep riding it. It is possible the other half is still in place, but I would look for it on the oil plug at the next oil change. Or, its a 2011. You could sell it to the next unsuspecting person and buy a newer one. It may never cause a problem. Looks to me like most of the snap rings are there for assembly purposes and the gears are fine after assembly into the gearbox. I could be wrong. have been before. If you notice any change in the way it shifts in any gear, then there might be a problem. If the other half of the ring is in the bottom of the pan, it will probably stay there and never move. Ride it, thats what I would do. If it was under warranty , then that would be different.

REALLY, Sell it to some unsuspecting person and buy a newer one? And then that person who is your UNSUSPECTING BUYER, has to shell out hundreds of dollars to get his supposedly operational machine fixed because you failed to disclose a potential problem? WHY.?

 

[oldgoat]

Original Poster

Where the hell are you?

A lot of people have spent time thinking about your problem and typing stuff for you & you have disappeared into thin air.

That's not how it's done around here.

 

[wanderingman]

Broken Snap Ring

Hello,

I have a 2011 CanAm Spyder. I have taken it in for service for replacing the bad battery and changing the oil. While changing the oil they found a snap ring brought in half. Has anyone ever had this same type of problem? The mechanics are telling me, that I should drive it and if there are problems we will have to take the engine apart to see where the snap ring goes. They said it is not uncommon to have metal shavings on the magnets while changing the oil? They are saying it seems to come from the transmission? The spyder has had no problems? Has anyone had similar issue please help?

I strongly agree with the people saying not to ride it. If it was just a snap ring on the magnetic plug I would not be near as concerned as part of a snap ring on the plug. First of all it took force to break that ring. That means something happened inside the engine which should not have happened. Yes there should be concern for additional engine or transmission damage and greater repair costs. My larger concern would be an occurrence which caused sudden engine or gearbox lockup. I have experienced it. Not an experience I want to repeat. On a modified two stroke, I have had the piston ring expand into a piston port. Engine stoppage is instantaneous. Rear wheel lockup matches the engine lockup. This has the potential to cause very costly medical concerns for the rider in addition to costly engine/transmission repairs. The least expensive and absolute result of this experience is the need of underwear replacement which is unpleasant while awaiting some one to recover your Spyder.

As a Tech Rep for an industrial engine manufacturer (high speed gas turbines) I have seen the results of internal engine malfunction on numerous occasions. They are ALWAYS much more expensive to the extreme, compared to repair prior to catastrophic failure. But even this concern pales compared to the risk of human body damage if you experience a rotating mass lockup.

 

[kep-up]

My first question Mr. Troll, is this: Did you actually see the broken piece on the magnet?