Bob Denman
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:shocked: But that means that we'd be riding the same bikes... and AGREEING on something!! :yikes:
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998cc VS 1330cc engines
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:shocked: But that means that we'd be riding the same bikes... and AGREEING on something!! :yikes:
Easy Rider
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They did not change the gear ratio spacing of the 5 lower gears for gas mileage reasons. The change went the wrong way for that.
THAT change was made as a concession for those who wanted "hot rod" performance.......and then 6th was added to help with the cruising gas mileage.
While that sounds like a good idea, 50+ years of riding experience tells me that it is NOT.
Illinois Boy
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I like the 998 RTS I own, and I have plenty of experience with both the 998 & 1300. The 998 engine is a great motor if operated correctly. No regrets of owning one. 
Bob Denman
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:agree: My 2010 RT A&C lit the fire... My 2014 RT Limited just made it burn brighter! :clap:
There it is!!.....[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]
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Bob Denman
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Sorry: I prefer...
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crazycanuck
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so where are we with this?
Bob Denman
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That I'm a cheerleader for BRP, and Drew doesn't play well with others... :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
crazycanuck
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internet is serious business.:banghead:
Bob Denman
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Only for those that truly take it seriously, sometimes WAY to seriously. [emoji57]
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crazycanuck
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south GA Farm Boy
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998cc VS 1330cc
Ok Guys,
Thanks for all your input, I started this, so I will end with my feeling now a few rides later! They are both great engines, I like the 998 torque, but I also like the smooth gear shifting on the 1330 engine. It has the ability to slow down and speed up in town without having to keep the RPM's so high! As for changing the gear levels on the 6 speed, you have to be careful! You can wind up like Harley did, with a 6 speed that you can only use on the interstate highways running 70 MPH or higher only!! I owned about 9 Harleys both 5 and 6 speeds! My 5 speeds pulled better, got better gas mileage, and out performed the 6 speed in the mountains! I am learning to ride my new RT Limited with the 1330cc engine and using the 6 speed transmission with each ride! There is room for both in our Spyder world, so each to his own! Again, thanks for all your comments! I feel like a true Spyder lover after reading all your thoughts!
Ok Guys,
Thanks for all your input, I started this, so I will end with my feeling now a few rides later! They are both great engines, I like the 998 torque, but I also like the smooth gear shifting on the 1330 engine. It has the ability to slow down and speed up in town without having to keep the RPM's so high! As for changing the gear levels on the 6 speed, you have to be careful! You can wind up like Harley did, with a 6 speed that you can only use on the interstate highways running 70 MPH or higher only!! I owned about 9 Harleys both 5 and 6 speeds! My 5 speeds pulled better, got better gas mileage, and out performed the 6 speed in the mountains! I am learning to ride my new RT Limited with the 1330cc engine and using the 6 speed transmission with each ride! There is room for both in our Spyder world, so each to his own! Again, thanks for all your comments! I feel like a true Spyder lover after reading all your thoughts!
Firefly
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Just FYI.....
2012 RT:
Power: 100 hp @7500 RPM
Torque: 80 lb.-ft @ 5000 rpm
Weight: 930 lbs
2017 RT
Power: 115 hp @ 7250 RPM (15% increase)
Torque: 96 lb-ft. @ 5000 RPM (20% increase)
Weight: 1012 lbs (9% increase)
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2012 RS:
Power: 106 hp @8500 RPM
Torque: 77 lb.-ft @ 6250 RPM
Weight: 700 lbs
2017 F3S:
Power: 115 hp @7250 RPM (9% increase)
Torque: 96 lb.-ft @ 5000 RPM (25% increase)
Weight: 900 lbs (29% increase)
2012 RT:
Power: 100 hp @7500 RPM
Torque: 80 lb.-ft @ 5000 rpm
Weight: 930 lbs
2017 RT
Power: 115 hp @ 7250 RPM (15% increase)
Torque: 96 lb-ft. @ 5000 RPM (20% increase)
Weight: 1012 lbs (9% increase)
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2012 RS:
Power: 106 hp @8500 RPM
Torque: 77 lb.-ft @ 6250 RPM
Weight: 700 lbs
2017 F3S:
Power: 115 hp @7250 RPM (9% increase)
Torque: 96 lb.-ft @ 5000 RPM (25% increase)
Weight: 900 lbs (29% increase)
AeroPilot
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As Lord Kelvin put it...
Lord Kelvin Quotes. If you can not measure it, you can not improve it. I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and unsatisfactory kind.
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Lord Kelvin Quotes. If you can not measure it, you can not improve it. I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and unsatisfactory kind.
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Devious56
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Firefly, where did you get the numbers: My 2015 RT has an 8300 rpm rev limiter, why would the red line be 7,250 rpm. I ask because I'm a relatively new spyder owner, and just don't know.
David
I think I may have made an assumption or two, but I would be interested in where your numbers came from, if you don't mind. Thanks.
David
I think I may have made an assumption or two, but I would be interested in where your numbers came from, if you don't mind. Thanks.
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Warlock
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I'd heard that the 2013 RS was cut back to 100 hp. Got a friend that has a 13 model and it seems not as strong as the earlier models.
David
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Devious56
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Ok, thank you. Just my opinion, but I'd be a little hesitant to believe all of that. Just seat of the pants mind you, but it seems that no one can come up with a dyno that can actually check a Spyder to get reliable numbers. I would think that if the power falls off as shown in the graph, you would certainly feel it when running thru the gears. Just my opinion mind you, I don't have a dog in this fight.
David
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