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600 mile first service cost

My opinion [only] It's a little of both,
I've never taken in any bike for a 6 hundred service i do myself and never had a problem with warranty work when [if] needed.

I still don't know. What does the Owners' Manual and or the Warranty/Service book say? Does the manufacturer recommend service/inspection at 600 miles? if so, what does that service/inspection consist of?

Thanks.
 
While at Spyderfest I talked to the service department at Cowtown USA in Cuba, MO about getting a 600 mile service performed on my RT LTD. They quoted me $135.00 for the oil, filters, etc. and the check out. I ran out of time and couldn't get my bike in before we had to head back to Quincy.

The service department at my dealership in Keokuk, IA quoted $150.00 for the same as work as Cowtown. I will be taking mine in shortly because I put on almost 800 miles while at Spyderfest.
 
"The book lists a 600 mile dealer check." The waranty book? Does it say what it is included? I gather that an oil/filter change is included and find this surprising in this day and age. It seems like overkill. I have bought several motorcycles more than 600 miles from home and would hate to have to stop for an oil change on the way home. Other bikes use Rotax engines. I wonder how many of them require a first oil change at such low mileage?

Ben, as you see, the Spyder is a high maintenance vehicle. The book lists a 600 mile dealer check. I don't think they push it, but IF you had a huge mechanical failure, a dealer could (I say could) charge you vs. "under warranty".

In the past, I have owned Gold Wings and Suzuki's. I delt with several dealers and all charged for the 600 mile inspection. However, as you know, the Gold Wing has a much longer maintenance interval.

I watched the tech change my oil and filters, etc. The oil was clear and clean....the filters were good also and neither really needed changed. A nice profit for the dealers I think. They all do it it seems.
 
I am surprised to read that there is any charge for the initial (600 mile?) service. I would think that it would be included in the price of the unit and promoted as being free. Having to shell out $200 to $300 for an inspection of a brand new vehicle, in some cases only a couple days after it's purchase, is not comforting to say the least!
If you don't plan on doing some of these maintenance work yourself, the only thing you can expect is to pay thru your nose to the dealers. This machine is designed to cater to the Boomers who has lots of $$$ that they need to spend before they get too old and gray.
 
If you don't plan on doing some of these maintenance work yourself, the only thing you can expect is to pay thru your nose to the dealers. This machine is designed to cater to the Boomers who has lots of $$$ that they need to spend before they get too old and gray.

Though I am old and grey I do tend to do most of the routine maintenance. <g>
 
"The book lists a 600 mile dealer check." The waranty book? Does it say what it is included? I gather that an oil/filter change is included and find this surprising in this day and age. It seems like overkill. I have bought several motorcycles more than 600 miles from home and would hate to have to stop for an oil change on the way home. Other bikes use Rotax engines. I wonder how many of them require a first oil change at such low mileage?
There is no warranty book. The 600 mile check is listed in the maintenance requirements in the Owners Guide. Acknowledgement of the need for the 600 mile check is also included on the warranty registration/vehicle acceptance form which the owner signs at the time of delivery. That also states that it is at the owner's expense. BRP could include it, but at what price? Every dealer charges differently. There are some important tasks that are required at the 600 mile mark that the owner cannot complete. Those include checking and clearing any fault codes on BUDS, and checking and downloading any necessary firmware updates, as well as checking for necessary Warranty Campaigns or recalls. The reason for the initial oil change and cleaning the oil tank screen and drain plug magnet at a low mileage, is to remove debris that is created during the initial engine operation, or was left in the engine during manufacturing and assembly. The 600 mile mark is not critical, but if you are on the road, do the service as soon as possible after hitting 600 miles. Most manufacturers have similar requirements. I would hesitate to go over 1,000, but each dealer may view that differently. If you cannot complete the entire service list at 600-1,000, I would at least change the oil and filter, and clean the screen and magnet. Do that yourself if necessary. This requirement is what it is. If you cannot accept it, perhaps you should look elsewhere.
 
There is no warranty book. The 600 mile check is listed in the maintenance requirements in the Owners Guide. Acknowledgement of the need for the 600 mile check is also included on the warranty registration/vehicle acceptance form which the owner signs at the time of delivery. That also states that it is at the owner's expense. BRP could include it, but at what price? Every dealer charges differently. There are some important tasks that are required at the 600 mile mark that the owner cannot complete. Those include checking and clearing any fault codes on BUDS, and checking and downloading any necessary firmware updates, as well as checking for necessary Warranty Campaigns or recalls. The reason for the initial oil change and cleaning the oil tank screen and drain plug magnet at a low mileage, is to remove debris that is created during the initial engine operation, or was left in the engine during manufacturing and assembly. The 600 mile mark is not critical, but if you are on the road, do the service as soon as possible after hitting 600 miles. Most manufacturers have similar requirements. I would hesitate to go over 1,000, but each dealer may view that differently. If you cannot complete the entire service list at 600-1,000, I would at least change the oil and filter, and clean the screen and magnet. Do that yourself if necessary. This requirement is what it is. If you cannot accept it, perhaps you should look elsewhere.

I can't speak for others but have never been charged for software updates or for performance of campaigns and or recalls.
 
I can't speak for others but have never been charged for software updates or for performance of campaigns and or recalls.
You will not be charged for those, but they are an important part of the 600 mile service. You will be charged for the oil/filter change, belt adjustment, etc., by the agreemnent you sign when you accept delivery of the Spyder.
 
I guess that I don't understand the rules that apply on this forum. Apparently one isn't supposed to ask questions. <BBG>

:agree:!

What I don't understand is if you want to know what a particular service costs why not just call your dealer or several dealers. We on this forum can spout numbers all day long but it is the dealer who does the service. These are NOT simple machines and there are some tasks that only a dealer can provide. To provide that it costs money, plain and simple! If you want shade tree servicing then buy something from the 70's or 80's. This is not a shadey tree type of machine. Ok, rant over. :chill:
 
I guess that I don't understand the rules that apply on this forum. Apparently one isn't supposed to ask questions. <BBG>

YEP; That's the way to do it, When ever anyone has a particular question, just call [ask] a dealer or better yet ask a few dealers,
I'm sure you'll get the right answers. ;) Who needs Forums anyway.:gaah:
 
I certainly agree that all dealers are not cut from the same cloth. In my experience this applies to car dealers as well as M/C dealers.


Not what I meant. Gosh during my build I asked and have answered plenty of questions about a wide variety of topics. There are some things though that we have no control over and one of them is service pricing. Each dealer sets their own schedules for certain things. Now those schedules will still vary from person to person because the the relationship they have with their dealer. Buying a motorcycle isn't like buying a car. It is a more involved process during and after. The whole package has to be taken into consideration. Somethings may cost more and others less but I've always found there is certain a camaraderie between owner and dealer that you don't have at a car dealer. If you buy your Spyder at one dealer, buy your parts at a different one and then service at yet another based on price alone I think you would be loosing out. Maybe it's just me but I don't see all dealers just out to get our money and then forget about us. Yes those kinds are out there but they won't last long. :D
 
Most important service?

From my limited experience, and in conversation with cousins and mechanics, the "break in service appt" is possibly the most important dealer service you can schedule. If a dealer is quoting $150 for the service, they either are comping their labor, or they are not doing the required work. Removal of the Tupperware alone should account fr at least 1 hour on an RT. This crucial time period is where strange things float up in your oil, mysterious leaks from flanges and gaskets nt properly set present themselves, and previously untightened bolts make themselves known. It is the motorcycle equivalent of a "shakedown cruise" and there are over 70 inspection points for the bike to go through. At 12000 miles we see this again, sort of the functional equivalent of the 60k service for many cars and trucks, where the functional life span of many small parts is over. At an average cost of $90 per hour for labor plus parts, most dealerships are actually giving a bit of a deal at $300 fir the service, though yes, it still seems excessive for a new vehicle. At least now you have the back story.
 
Restated, the 'back story' as you put it is that buyers should pay for what the manufacturer should have done before releasing the vehicle and the dealership should have done during it's pre-delivery inspection. :thumbup:

From my limited experience, and in conversation with cousins and mechanics, the "break in service appt" is possibly the most important dealer service you can schedule. If a dealer is quoting $150 for the service, they either are comping their labor, or they are not doing the required work. Removal of the Tupperware alone should account fr at least 1 hour on an RT. This crucial time period is where strange things float up in your oil, mysterious leaks from flanges and gaskets nt properly set present themselves, and previously untightened bolts make themselves known. It is the motorcycle equivalent of a "shakedown cruise" and there are over 70 inspection points for the bike to go through. At 12000 miles we see this again, sort of the functional equivalent of the 60k service for many cars and trucks, where the functional life span of many small parts is over. At an average cost of $90 per hour for labor plus parts, most dealerships are actually giving a bit of a deal at $300 fir the service, though yes, it still seems excessive for a new vehicle. At least now you have the back story.
 
Restated, the 'back story' as you put it is that buyers should pay for what the manufacturer should have done before releasing the vehicle and the dealership should have done during it's pre-delivery inspection. :thumbup:

To this I agree 101%.
 
600 mi service

Unless there are different manuals, mine say`s it is recommended to have the dealer do it,I for one am not about to be screwed by a dealer like this when I can have a very new kenworth serviced and has more electronics then my spyder for 209.43 I am not going to be seen as a cash cow.

Were not sheep

Dick
 
The dealer here in Midland charged 2 hours labor @ $90.00 each and $83.00 for the oil, filter and EPA charge. But they got it out in 1 day so I am satisfied.
 
charge for 600 mile service

Can I get a idea how much I should expect to pay for my first 600 mile service check up. I might be able to get a average cost by imput from previous service costs from members. Then I will know how much cash? to bring with my ride. Thanks, Bob
I just purchased my 2011 RTS/SE5 last week. I now have 370 miles on the odometer. I asked about the service price and they said $198 plus parts. I remember when I had my Suzuki Burgman 650 serviced, the charge was about $189.
Gordon
p.s. I hate to hear all these complaints about Spyder service. I don't want to think I threw out $27,000 for nothing.
 
To this I agree 101%.

I also agree, The only bike that I've owned that Didn't call for the 600 mile service was my VTX 1800, The first scheduled service was at 6 thousand miles, at my cost [did it myself]
But if they did it at no charge, it would have just been added to the initial cost of the Bike. Six of one half a dozen of another.:dontknow:
 
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