3rd Brake Light - is there anything available that wont cause faults?

[ARtraveler]

We have the SPY394 version on our F3L 2019. $129.95. Works great. Planning on having a set installed on the new F3L 2020 when we take it in for first service.

Both Spyderpops and Lamonster Garage have the same set.

 

[Snoking1127]

Why didn't you mount it at the top of the trunk lid? It would have been more visible up there. There are several lights made for that space. Did you consider any of them?

Yes, they are however a bit pricy. The strobe I bought was 26 bucks on Amazon and even cheaper straight from LEDequiped.com. I could have fashioned a mounting block to match the contour up there, and I could still do that. However if I decide on a rear rack, then the light there is obscured. Where I put it, I have one 1/4" hole in the black plastic and Ace has nice little black plugs that I can pop in the hole. AND, I like creating little projects myself.

 

[rick_w]

We have the full harness with Flasher available. They have the exact same CanBus compatible Flasher assembly in it that Custom Dynamics uses.
We installed one on our own 2020RT, works great.
https://store.valueaccessories.net/RTBrakeflasherModule.aspx

 

[K80Shooter]

Rick,
I have looked at that but please correct me if I'm wrong, that would flash all of the rear brake lights wouldn't it?

I just want the trunk brake light to flash. Like maybe if that flasher unit would plug in directly at the trunk light would work. :dontknow:

I have a flasher that I got today and will try it then post back here in a few days after I install and try it out.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Yes, they are however a bit pricy. The strobe I bought was 26 bucks on Amazon and even cheaper straight from LEDequiped.com. I could have fashioned a mounting block to match the contour up there, and I could still do that. However if I decide on a rear rack, then the light there is obscured. Where I put it, I have one 1/4" hole in the black plastic and Ace has nice little black plugs that I can pop in the hole. AND, I like creating little projects myself.

That's kind of what I thought might be the case. On my 2013, and then 2014 RTs I mounted TruFlex strips from Custom Dynamics, a red one for high mount brake, and short ones to the side for turn. Not as wallet friendly as what you bought. The brake one on my 2014 was replaced with a Custom Dynamics brake light by Pit Bull Motorsports when I was at Spyderfest. They goofed and cut the wires for it thinking my RT was the one scheduled to have one installed. It wasn't! Getting blocked by a trunk rack is why I installed a Rivco rack - https://www.rivcoproducts.com/shop/can-am-spyder/racks/ca040bk-black/. The high mount brake light is quite visible under the rack. I wired in a Signal Dynamics brake light modulator and made my own harness for it all.

 

[Snoking1127]

I just ordered this little timer to turn off the third brake light strobe when setting at a stop light and holding down the brake pedal for extended time. I will let you know how it works out.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BT25J52/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

OK, installed the timer and set it for 20 +/- seconds. Press and hold brake pedal and strobe flashes for 20 seconds. It goes off if you lift your foot earlier. Once it times out, a quick release of the brake and back on restarts the timer with strobe light on again.

Settings:
S1 ON
S2 OFF
S4 Closed
S5 Open
S6 Open
S7 Closed

I ran a jumper from the VCC in (12V DC in) to the common on the relay output. Note: Jumper S5 will do this also, however current is limited through the jumper.

LED strobe is connected to NC out on the relay.

I mounted the timer behind the release panel on the trunk with plastic stand offs.

Works like I wanted it to.

 

[Steve W.]

Can you adjust that 20 second time down to about 5? The flashing is supposed to attract attention to your brake light, but not irritate to the point of aggravation.

Think of the car behind you in heavy traffic. All they will see is a blinking light that OCCASIONALLY goes solid.

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[Snoking1127]

Can you adjust that 20 second time down to about 5? The flashing is supposed to attract attention to your brake light, but not irritate to the point of aggravation.

Think of the car behind you in heavy traffic. All they will see is a blinking light that OCCASIONALLY goes solid.

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The timer is adjustable from 0.1 sec to 60 minutes. I wish the strobe I bought had an option to flash and then go solid, however it does not, so I installed the timer ti turn it off. I can play with the timer, however now have to remove the remove the rear trunk tupperware to do that.

 

[spyDerred15]

Spyder pops has a set up that works real fine.

 

[K80Shooter]

Ok here's what I did. I got one of these (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PSBSXD6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) I read all of the reviews and noted that some people were having problems. They were thinking that the red wire was the + hot wire for the light (correct) and the original black wire was the - ground. This is wrong. If you go with this unit use the red for the incoming positive/hot on the light (on my 2020 this is the white wire) For the - or ground you will need to run a wire from a known ground source (under the seat there is a ground wire running from the frame to a bolt on the right front corner) I attached my ground here with a 5/16 ring terminal then ran the wire to the unit that I installed. Everything works great this way. Total cost was maybe $25.00

If you want all of your brake lights hooked to this simply hook it up at the brake light switch. You still need to run a separate true ground for it.

Again "Do not use the black wire that's running to the light for the ground", if you do you will have problems.

 

[askitee]

Ok I have the 2020 RT Limited, I would like to add something to the trunk/3rd brake light to make it flash when the brakes are applied. I was wanting the Back Off XP but one of our sponsors tells me that it's not designed for the Can-Am Spyder's system.

Does anyone have anything that will work without causing fault codes or anything? I only want to attach it to that one light.

Thanks in advance.

Has anyone suggested a Bypass relay like this https://www.amazon.com.au/Maypole-3877A-7-Way-Pass-Buzzer/dp/B003H5FX6Q/ref=asc_df_B003H5FX6Q/?tag=googleshopdsk-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=463928084870&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1534379195815080075&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9071634&hvtargid=pla-564872053596&psc=1

Being in Australia we have 7 pin plugs and have to do something different if we want the reversing lights to work on our Trailer plus a few other things. The Bypass relay stopped the problems with Canbus. I am sure I have seen a US version with far less wires

 

[K80Shooter]

Look at the post right above yours, that's what I used and it works like I wanted it to.v:spyder2:

 

[Snoking1127]

OK, installed the timer and set it for 20 +/- seconds. Press and hold brake pedal and strobe flashes for 20 seconds. It goes off if you lift your foot earlier. Once it times out, a quick release of the brake and back on restarts the timer with strobe light on again.

Settings:
S1 ON
S2 OFF
S4 Closed
S5 Open
S6 Open
S7 Closed

I ran a jumper from the VCC in (12V DC in) to the common on the relay output. Note: Jumper S5 will do this also, however current is limited through the jumper.

LED strobe is connected to NC out on the relay.

I mounted the timer behind the release panel on the trunk with plastic stand offs.

Works like I wanted it to.

Working out the details one making the strobe flash for a set period of time and then switch to steady on. When the brake pedal is push the +12V turns on the timer and activates the relay and the strobe comes on. When the timer expires the relay drops and sends +12V to the cruise lead and turns on the LEDs stead until the brake pedal is released.

Did a wiring diagram:

 

[BertRemington]

Configurable weather-resistant brake flasher

I cheated (on my motorcycles, not my Spyder where I'm using the Skene deceleration flasher) with this configurable weather-resistant brake flasher https://www.amazon.com/blinker-flashes-solid-Safety-Universal/dp/B00SQEI4GO

 

[Snoking1127]

Well I just re-did my third brake light strobe with a slightly different model from LEDequipped.com model A-1375 which has an addition lead for steady on. So now it flashes until the timer expires and then goes steady on. I have the timer set for 9 seconds +/-.